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That’s the argument everyone uses (not just DNC), but as far as I know nobody refuted any of the emails as fake or doctored.

• Taniwha 9y ago
  exactly - we can't prove they were doctored, or not - but my point is that the "lone wolf hacker doing us a public service" story just went out the window, instead we have an "evil Russian spy hacking Americans" - all the motives that people assumed are different - without inside knowledge there's no way we can know what's true or not, so essentially the emails are proof of nothing
  • stale2002 9y ago
    Until someone comes forward and makes a counter claim, then it should be presumed true in entirety. If you are a political party, I am not going to give you the benfit of the doubt. If you POINT to something and say "specifically this email is untrue", then I'll believe you. But if you stay silent, then I am just going to assume that you believe everything is true. Innocent until proven guilty is for the court system. Political parties do not get that benefit from me. All they have to do is counter claim (about a SPECIFIC, point of fact, email, ect) , and I'll listen to them.
    • Taniwha 9y ago
      I don't see why, the charge is after all that the emails are true - as you say "innocent until proven guilty", and that applies to people, who have rights, not inanimate things like emails that don't. Without proof either way you can't assume anything here is true or false. If you think that American politicians are more corrupt than Russian spies then you probably too biased to rationally discuss the issue anyway.
      • dahdum 9y ago
        We know for a fact many of the emails are true, and there are no claims that specific ones are false as far as I remember. Reasonable to conclude that the batch was accurate until claims from the senders and recipients otherwise. Podesta had the same argument about tampering IIRC. Ask yourself if you would be questioning RNC leaks by a foreign power the same way. I would.
        • Taniwha 9y ago
          I would too, but I'd still assume the RNC is truthful over the KGB
          • stale2002 9y ago
            Yes, I would say the same for the democratic party. But in order for me to believe them, they have to ACTUALLY make a claim. They have to say "This email right here is false". If they do not say that, then I will assume that they believe all of them to be true. And no, vague insinuations of "It could have been doctored!" do not count as a claim. I will believe them if they point to a specific email or fact that they believe to be untrue. But so far they have made so such claims, so there is nothing for me to believe them on.
• davewritescode 9y ago
  You’re right, the emails are real but if you think equally embarrassing emails didn’t exist on RNC email servers you’re naive. That primary was incredibly ugly. Given access to almost anyone’s email, it’s not a difficult task to selectively pick out emails to paint an unflattering picture.
  • dahdum 9y ago
    I said so above, but I’m sure the Republicans are no less corrupt than the Democrats are. I think it’s a mistake to think either party is more moral or less corrupt than the other, they adapt to each other.
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