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I always find at least one completely unrelated comparisons or story in HN threads. I also hate the sorting of comments on HN. Is there a way to change it by ho

I always find at least one completely unrelated comparisons or story in HN threads. I also hate the sorting of comments on HN. Is there a way to change it by hot/top like on Reddit? So often the first comment is completely off-topic/with examples in GP and turns into a thread of few more unrelated comparisons and anecdotes. BMW and Microsoft are in way different situations. State of electric cars right now (mainstream) is nowhere close to state of ebook readers before Kindle.

thinkloop 9y ago
It is sorted by top comments, with brand new comments getting top spot temporarily so they are not instantly buried.
- mattigames 9y ago
  It's a bad system; it promotes upvoting the already top-comment and commenting on it or the initial replies to it; the best way would be to pseudo-randomize posts order but biased towards those with higher score (e.g. so the top-rated-comment sometimes appears second, some rare times third; and some extremely rare times forth [regardless of how old any of those comments are])
  - ianai 9y ago
    I wonder if a two or three column view would be better. Could have a current best and newest sort. Third column could be random.
  - FabHK 9y ago
    An option to hide/expand comment trees might help, as you could easily hide the first comment (and everything that hangs off it) and check out the next ones (without having to manually scan indentation).
  - pathseeker 9y ago
    IIRC people replying to a comment without upvoting it will down-rank it. So OT discussions survive only if they are highly upvoted.
reubenswartz 9y ago
Not arguing with the comment ranking. ;-) However, I don't think electric cars are "mainstream", outside of a small slice of people, which probably overlaps pretty well with HN. ;) They have great mindshare thanks to Tesla's marketing (and because they're pretty damn good cars), but they're a blip in terms of overall car sales volume unless you filter by really high end sedans and SUVs.
- adrianN 9y ago
  In Norway 40% of the sold cars are plug-in electric.
  - ptaipale 9y ago
    That number appears to include plug-in hybrids. In January and February this year, 4324 electric cars were registered [1]. Total registration number for this period was 24199 [2]. That would be 18 % electric. There's been a large subsidy to electric cars which is effectively a subsidy to rich people... [1] http://www.ssb.no/en/transport-og-reiseliv/artikler-og-publikasjoner/over-140-000-electric-cars-in-norway http://www.ssb.no/en/transport-og-reiseliv/artikler-og-publi...
  - greedo 9y ago
    This gets trotted out all the time. Norway is a very small country, in terms of population and GDP. Approximately 5 million people. Car ownership is about 58%, so roughly 3 million cars on the road. This is a nit, an infinitesimal number of cars. It's like using Arizona as an example. Same general population and GDP.
  - pathseeker 9y ago
    Norway is a very small slice of rich people. Not mainstream by any means.

thinkloop 9y ago

It is sorted by top comments, with brand new comments getting top spot temporarily so they are not instantly buried.

mattigames 9y ago
It's a bad system; it promotes upvoting the already top-comment and commenting on it or the initial replies to it; the best way would be to pseudo-randomize posts order but biased towards those with higher score (e.g. so the top-rated-comment sometimes appears second, some rare times third; and some extremely rare times forth [regardless of how old any of those comments are])
- ianai 9y ago
  I wonder if a two or three column view would be better. Could have a current best and newest sort. Third column could be random.
- FabHK 9y ago
  An option to hide/expand comment trees might help, as you could easily hide the first comment (and everything that hangs off it) and check out the next ones (without having to manually scan indentation).
- pathseeker 9y ago
  IIRC people replying to a comment without upvoting it will down-rank it. So OT discussions survive only if they are highly upvoted.

reubenswartz 9y ago

Not arguing with the comment ranking. ;-) However, I don't think electric cars are "mainstream", outside of a small slice of people, which probably overlaps pretty well with HN. ;) They have great mindshare thanks to Tesla's marketing (and because they're pretty damn good cars), but they're a blip in terms of overall car sales volume unless you filter by really high end sedans and SUVs.

adrianN 9y ago
In Norway 40% of the sold cars are plug-in electric.
- ptaipale 9y ago
  That number appears to include plug-in hybrids. In January and February this year, 4324 electric cars were registered [1]. Total registration number for this period was 24199 [2]. That would be 18 % electric. There's been a large subsidy to electric cars which is effectively a subsidy to rich people... [1] http://www.ssb.no/en/transport-og-reiseliv/artikler-og-publikasjoner/over-140-000-electric-cars-in-norway http://www.ssb.no/en/transport-og-reiseliv/artikler-og-publi...
- greedo 9y ago
  This gets trotted out all the time. Norway is a very small country, in terms of population and GDP. Approximately 5 million people. Car ownership is about 58%, so roughly 3 million cars on the road. This is a nit, an infinitesimal number of cars. It's like using Arizona as an example. Same general population and GDP.
- pathseeker 9y ago
  Norway is a very small slice of rich people. Not mainstream by any means.