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Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Almost never because the punishment is very high and it is considered as a very severe crime. IMHO, child porn is o

Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Almost never because the punishment is very high and it is considered as a very severe crime. IMHO, child porn is only a scapegoat for liberticide laws. If the states wanted to fight child porn, it could eradicate it without changing any law. Even if child porn is a serious issue, I am convinced it is completely negligible compared to the number of children raped by their parents. Even stars like Woody Allen are concerned. When I read that we should fight child porn, it means that we should give up our freedom and our democracy. Choose your fight.

jstarfish 9y ago
> Even if child porn is a serious issue, I am convinced it is completely negligible compared to the number of children raped by their parents. This problem is worse than that though. Children abused by parents/caretakers are victims of circumstance. Problems with foster care aside, moving the child out of that environment should stop the abuse. The problem here is that of commerce. There is an endless stream of Uncle Lesters in the queue. The child is a victim for as long as they have value on the market, and then they're found dead in a ditch somewhere. > When I read that we should fight child porn, it means that we should give up our freedom and our democracy. Choose your fight. You're going to have a hard time finding popular support for the notion that freedom protects your right to sexually exploit underage girls.
- peteey 9y ago
  >freedom protects your right to sexually exploit underage girls That's not what he said or implied at all
- somebodyfree 9y ago
  Commercial child porn is extremely rare. In 2010, for example, not a single federal distribution case in the United States involved commercial activity. The majority of prosecutions are against people downloading it off peer to peer networks for free; the rest are against people trading it for more child porn. https://injusticetoday.com/new-doj-report-demonstrates-stunning-disingenuity-on-cases-involving-sexual-exploitation-of-b44a0c444e5d https://injusticetoday.com/new-doj-report-demonstrates-stunn...
balls187 9y ago
> Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Almost never because the punishment is very high and it is considered as a very severe crime. You have drawn the wrong conclusion. There is less counterfeit crime because it's harder to pull off, not because the laws are tougher. Counterfeiting money is far more complex of a crime, and only benefits one-side, the suppliers. No business, legitimate or otherwise wants to deal in fake currency. On the other hand, children are highly vulnerable and easy to victimize. The suppliers and the buyers are both incentivized to perpetuate this crime.
84Winston 9y ago
The Secret Service combats counterfeit. (why?) Do they read Miranda Rights to counterfeiters? I dunno, it's the Secret Service. Maybe that's why you do not hear often cases of counterfeit money.
piracykills 9y ago
> Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Unrelated tangent, but not only do I often hear cases of counterfeit money, I had friends who would counterfeit it in highschool just with a little image editing and a printer. This small scale type of counterfeiting is actually by far the most common type. Won't work against newer plastic-y bills in my country though.

jstarfish 9y ago

> Even if child porn is a serious issue, I am convinced it is completely negligible compared to the number of children raped by their parents. This problem is worse than that though. Children abused by parents/caretakers are victims of circumstance. Problems with foster care aside, moving the child out of that environment should stop the abuse. The problem here is that of commerce. There is an endless stream of Uncle Lesters in the queue. The child is a victim for as long as they have value on the market, and then they're found dead in a ditch somewhere. > When I read that we should fight child porn, it means that we should give up our freedom and our democracy. Choose your fight. You're going to have a hard time finding popular support for the notion that freedom protects your right to sexually exploit underage girls.

peteey 9y ago
>freedom protects your right to sexually exploit underage girls That's not what he said or implied at all
somebodyfree 9y ago
Commercial child porn is extremely rare. In 2010, for example, not a single federal distribution case in the United States involved commercial activity. The majority of prosecutions are against people downloading it off peer to peer networks for free; the rest are against people trading it for more child porn. https://injusticetoday.com/new-doj-report-demonstrates-stunning-disingenuity-on-cases-involving-sexual-exploitation-of-b44a0c444e5d https://injusticetoday.com/new-doj-report-demonstrates-stunn...

balls187 9y ago

> Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Almost never because the punishment is very high and it is considered as a very severe crime. You have drawn the wrong conclusion. There is less counterfeit crime because it's harder to pull off, not because the laws are tougher. Counterfeiting money is far more complex of a crime, and only benefits one-side, the suppliers. No business, legitimate or otherwise wants to deal in fake currency. On the other hand, children are highly vulnerable and easy to victimize. The suppliers and the buyers are both incentivized to perpetuate this crime.

84Winston 9y ago

The Secret Service combats counterfeit. (why?) Do they read Miranda Rights to counterfeiters? I dunno, it's the Secret Service. Maybe that's why you do not hear often cases of counterfeit money.

piracykills 9y ago

> Do you ear often cases of counterfeit money? Unrelated tangent, but not only do I often hear cases of counterfeit money, I had friends who would counterfeit it in highschool just with a little image editing and a printer. This small scale type of counterfeiting is actually by far the most common type. Won't work against newer plastic-y bills in my country though.