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WhatsApp You know that's still Facebook, rrriiiight?

• iamjaredwalters 9y ago
  The data may ultimately belong to Facebook but Whatsapp is not the same as Facebook.
  • soziawa 9y ago
    But everything is made by Facebook, the only difference is branding. It's like saying that Facebook Messenger only belongs to Facebook but isn't Facebook.
• sp332 9y ago
  True, but it does have end-to-end encryption so their ability to leak or abuse your data is a lot more limited.
  • black_puppydog 9y ago
    I doubt they'd need the word "coffee" to infer what's happening when said message gets sent. Who sends it and to whom would be just enough thank you very much...
  • soziawa 9y ago
    But they get all your location data. They'll know that you met for coffee.
    • sp332 9y ago
      Is it necessary to give them location data to use the app?
      • soziawa 9y ago
        They'll know through your IP.
        • vorticalbox 9y ago
          they will know that this IP sent this much data to that IP but not what was inside it. Your ISP knows the same when using a web site via HTTPS. They can see you send a request to the website but not what it contained. You could also use a VPn or TOR if you want to hide your IP.
          • soziawa 9y ago
            And they'll know who you contacted and when. That allows for a lot of things to be guessed. Especially with hundreds of thousands of messages per user available to them. Yeah, but my ISP has to follow the local laws and I can easily switch ISPs if I dislike my current one. Try that with Facebook. Yeah, I might use a VPN but I'd also have to force all my contacts to use one as well.
• drukenemo 9y ago
  As said by others, there are differences. Also, I set Whatsapp to never receive my location data. But yeah, the networking effect is real. Whatsapp is what everyone uses, so far it seems like a decent compromise based on end-to-end encryption.