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And if Apple wanted to prove that they actually care about privacy, they would design their apps in a way that I wouldn't have to connect to their servers in an

And if Apple wanted to prove that they actually care about privacy, they would design their apps in a way that I wouldn't have to connect to their servers in any way. This is true even when talking about their apps and services.

walterbell 9y ago
Can you recommend a vendor who meets these criteria?
- CaptSpify 9y ago
  There are a ton of them. Look at any open-source email/dav/webserver/etc projects. As an example: Dovecot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovecot_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovecot_(software)) doesn't require me to connect to their servers for anything. They have no idea what I'm doing with my data, and they've designed their software so that they can't violate my privacy.
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    FOSS projects are not "vendors". Nobody sells a smartphone that meets the criteria described.
    - detaro 9y ago
      You can buy Android phones like the Fairphone where removing the Google services is officially supported, that comes pretty close.
    - CaptSpify 9y ago
      Why not? I can buy FOSS products, so I don't see how that wouldn't apply. Would this work for you then? https://www.pfsense.org/ https://www.pfsense.org/ I also don't see why it matters whether or not nobody else sells a smartphone like that. Just because everyone else is doing shady shit with their products doesn't mean Apple gets a free pass.