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> The good news about self-driving car accidents is that improvements to the system will be eventually shared by all cars saving many lives. If this was true,

> The good news about self-driving car accidents is that improvements to the system will be eventually shared by all cars saving many lives. If this was true, how come the car was not trained for this pretty common/typical scenario. Did it take one human life to show that it is possible that a pedestrian can cross the road in front of the car? Are the people gone so blind with this obsession with new tech?

ojosilva 9y ago
The system is very early stage, I believe there's still a long way to go until the system is fully trained and has enough redundancy as to remediate for bugs in one component. I'm pretty sure the engineers foresaw that situation to an extent and that their design intention is to prevent or avoid running over pedestrians. The same happened in aviation throughout the years, until airliners got to a point where systems just don't fail... Or at least not without other 2 systems correcting it. There's human intervention behind every aspect of this accident, and again, like airliners, there will be many accidents (and hopefully not many deaths) until engineers can get it right. FAA and other agencies played a crucial role in exposing and recommending improvements across different manufacturers and airlines, hopefully government will assume that role here too to ensure improvements are mandatory before sending prototypes into the road.
- buvanshak 9y ago
  >I believe there's still a long way to go until the system is fully trained and has enough redundancy as to remediate for bugs in one component... What sort of tests did these cars undergo before they were put on street? Have you seen them? Have these cars undergone tests where they are shown to reliably handle situations such as these? Have you cared to ask? Is there a legal ground work in place for self driving vehicles? It seems that none of them is in place and the reasons is that there is a human being behind the wheels. The whole "intellectual" technology wiz kids stood by and watched while the companies such as these weasel their way to doing something like this and no one cared to fucking ask "HAVE THE FUCKING THING EVER BEEN TESTED?" >The same happened in aviation throughout the years, until airliners got to a point where systems just don't fail... Or at least not without other 2 systems correcting it. You can choose not to be in an airliner. But very few can afford not to be on roads where there will be droves of these kind of vehicles running these kind of half baked tech...Right now, the only thing that assures me that the incoming vehicle does not run into me is that the human running it has the same incentive as myself for preventing it..With this tech that is gone.

ojosilva 9y ago

The system is very early stage, I believe there's still a long way to go until the system is fully trained and has enough redundancy as to remediate for bugs in one component. I'm pretty sure the engineers foresaw that situation to an extent and that their design intention is to prevent or avoid running over pedestrians. The same happened in aviation throughout the years, until airliners got to a point where systems just don't fail... Or at least not without other 2 systems correcting it. There's human intervention behind every aspect of this accident, and again, like airliners, there will be many accidents (and hopefully not many deaths) until engineers can get it right. FAA and other agencies played a crucial role in exposing and recommending improvements across different manufacturers and airlines, hopefully government will assume that role here too to ensure improvements are mandatory before sending prototypes into the road.

buvanshak 9y ago
>I believe there's still a long way to go until the system is fully trained and has enough redundancy as to remediate for bugs in one component... What sort of tests did these cars undergo before they were put on street? Have you seen them? Have these cars undergone tests where they are shown to reliably handle situations such as these? Have you cared to ask? Is there a legal ground work in place for self driving vehicles? It seems that none of them is in place and the reasons is that there is a human being behind the wheels. The whole "intellectual" technology wiz kids stood by and watched while the companies such as these weasel their way to doing something like this and no one cared to fucking ask "HAVE THE FUCKING THING EVER BEEN TESTED?" >The same happened in aviation throughout the years, until airliners got to a point where systems just don't fail... Or at least not without other 2 systems correcting it. You can choose not to be in an airliner. But very few can afford not to be on roads where there will be droves of these kind of vehicles running these kind of half baked tech...Right now, the only thing that assures me that the incoming vehicle does not run into me is that the human running it has the same incentive as myself for preventing it..With this tech that is gone.