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> I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag Hmm typically when someone says that people are "dumb fucks" it usually means they are si

> I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag Hmm typically when someone says that people are "dumb fucks" it usually means they are simply incredibly naive /s

wellboy 9y ago
Or he lacks the social awareness, introspectiveness to see how his product has a negative impact.
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- wilsonnb 9y ago
  Or in this case, he was a 20 year old kid running a website with his college friends and roommates.
  - coatmatter 9y ago
    At this point, I think it is unproductive to comment on Zuckerberg as an individual (ad-hominem attacks?) because this leads to assuming that any alternative CEO would be better. I don't think we've had any solid evidence so far that he's naïve or a "sleazebag". However, what might be more frightening is the fact that he appears to be very normal and that many of us might share more traits with him than we'd be comfortable with admitting. Or perhaps that isn't frightening for many, and he is who some still aspire to (just like how many admire the management style of Torvalds or Jobs). Facebook's business model doesn't depend on Mark Zuckerberg's "magic". It will continue to grow or break regardless of whether he's at the helm or not. Users, advertisers, competitors and governments will have to be the ones to decide.
wilsonnb 9y ago
When a 20 year old calls people dumb fucks in a private conversation, it generally means that they are a normal 20 year old. Saying that Zuckerberg is a sleazebag based on a snippet of a private conversation he had 15 years ago when he was a college student is a stretch.
- joering2 9y ago
  I remember being 20 years old and no, I haven't been calling people "dumb fucks" in private conversations; to the contrary, I ran a small website on geocites in 1995 (if you don't know them, google it) and was super-happy when I had people commenting on it. Last thing my 20-year old would call them was "dumb fucks" for merely entertaining with my site.
  - wilsonnb 9y ago
    Your behavior is too small a sample size to have any bearing on the behavior of 20 year olds on average. It's entirely possible that you're a much better person than Mark Zuckerberg. That doesn't make him a bad person. I also remember being 20 and I said much worse things than calling a bunch of people dumb fucks in private conversation.

> I think Mark Zuckerberg is either incredibly naive, or a sleaze bag Hmm typically when someone says that people are "dumb fucks" it usually means they are simply incredibly naive /s

wellboy 9y ago

Or he lacks the social awareness, introspectiveness to see how his product has a negative impact.

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wilsonnb 9y ago
Or in this case, he was a 20 year old kid running a website with his college friends and roommates.
- coatmatter 9y ago
  At this point, I think it is unproductive to comment on Zuckerberg as an individual (ad-hominem attacks?) because this leads to assuming that any alternative CEO would be better. I don't think we've had any solid evidence so far that he's naïve or a "sleazebag". However, what might be more frightening is the fact that he appears to be very normal and that many of us might share more traits with him than we'd be comfortable with admitting. Or perhaps that isn't frightening for many, and he is who some still aspire to (just like how many admire the management style of Torvalds or Jobs). Facebook's business model doesn't depend on Mark Zuckerberg's "magic". It will continue to grow or break regardless of whether he's at the helm or not. Users, advertisers, competitors and governments will have to be the ones to decide.

wilsonnb 9y ago

When a 20 year old calls people dumb fucks in a private conversation, it generally means that they are a normal 20 year old. Saying that Zuckerberg is a sleazebag based on a snippet of a private conversation he had 15 years ago when he was a college student is a stretch.

joering2 9y ago
I remember being 20 years old and no, I haven't been calling people "dumb fucks" in private conversations; to the contrary, I ran a small website on geocites in 1995 (if you don't know them, google it) and was super-happy when I had people commenting on it. Last thing my 20-year old would call them was "dumb fucks" for merely entertaining with my site.
- wilsonnb 9y ago
  Your behavior is too small a sample size to have any bearing on the behavior of 20 year olds on average. It's entirely possible that you're a much better person than Mark Zuckerberg. That doesn't make him a bad person. I also remember being 20 and I said much worse things than calling a bunch of people dumb fucks in private conversation.