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You cannot argue against the laws of physics. It is inadvisable for any non professional driver to attempt to maximum break and also steer away. It is just no

You cannot argue against the laws of physics. It is inadvisable for any non professional driver to attempt to maximum break and also steer away. It is just not safe.

pdonis 9y ago
> You cannot argue against the laws of physics. Sure. Anti-lock brakes work in accordance with the laws of physics. > It is inadvisable for any non professional driver to attempt to maximum break and also steer away. It is just not safe. This is true for a vehicle that does not have anti-lock brakes. It is not true for a vehicle that does have anti-lock brakes. As I said before, that is precisely what anti-lock brakes are for: to allow you to just push the brake pedal as hard as you can while also being able to steer (because the anti-lock brakes translate "push the brake pedal as hard as you can" into "don't apply the brakes hard enough for the wheels to lock"). And the reason why anti-lock brakes were invented and put into cars was precisely that you need to both brake and steer to avoid most collisions.
- chillwaves 9y ago
  I looked into this further, since I was trained to not steer and brake. I understand anti-lock brakes but it does not answer the question of breaking traction, just stops your wheels from locking up (which does maximize traction vs locked wheels). The answer to the question is ESC (Electronic Stability Control) which is mandated by law in all US vehicles as pf 2012. ESC controls braking on individual wheels to prevent over/under-steering which was my primary concern about swerving in emergency situations. This short video is a great illustration, it helped me understand how the system works. Looks like my information about swerving is out of date. https://youtu.be/L1qt84c2KN0 https://youtu.be/L1qt84c2KN0 Previously I only found this study that claims people were not driving or braking properly with ABS resulting in more single car crashes due to over-steering while braking. http://www.smartmotorist.com/traffic-and-safety-guideline/improper-steering-endangers-drivers-with-abs.html http://www.smartmotorist.com/traffic-and-safety-guideline/im...

You cannot argue against the laws of physics. It is inadvisable for any non professional driver to attempt to maximum break and also steer away. It is just not safe.

pdonis 9y ago

> You cannot argue against the laws of physics. Sure. Anti-lock brakes work in accordance with the laws of physics. > It is inadvisable for any non professional driver to attempt to maximum break and also steer away. It is just not safe. This is true for a vehicle that does not have anti-lock brakes. It is not true for a vehicle that does have anti-lock brakes. As I said before, that is precisely what anti-lock brakes are for: to allow you to just push the brake pedal as hard as you can while also being able to steer (because the anti-lock brakes translate "push the brake pedal as hard as you can" into "don't apply the brakes hard enough for the wheels to lock"). And the reason why anti-lock brakes were invented and put into cars was precisely that you need to both brake and steer to avoid most collisions.

chillwaves 9y ago
I looked into this further, since I was trained to not steer and brake. I understand anti-lock brakes but it does not answer the question of breaking traction, just stops your wheels from locking up (which does maximize traction vs locked wheels). The answer to the question is ESC (Electronic Stability Control) which is mandated by law in all US vehicles as pf 2012. ESC controls braking on individual wheels to prevent over/under-steering which was my primary concern about swerving in emergency situations. This short video is a great illustration, it helped me understand how the system works. Looks like my information about swerving is out of date. https://youtu.be/L1qt84c2KN0 https://youtu.be/L1qt84c2KN0 Previously I only found this study that claims people were not driving or braking properly with ABS resulting in more single car crashes due to over-steering while braking. http://www.smartmotorist.com/traffic-and-safety-guideline/improper-steering-endangers-drivers-with-abs.html http://www.smartmotorist.com/traffic-and-safety-guideline/im...