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Do I understand correctly that this is basically G-Suite without the apps? Or are there extra features in this (if so, are those coming to G-Suite as well? I r
by askvictor 9y ago
Do I understand correctly that this is basically G-Suite without the apps? Or are there extra features in this (if so, are those coming to G-Suite as well?
I recently redid the identity system for my organisation. Despite using G-Suite as our productivity platform, we ended up going with AzureAD for our identity services for these reasons:
* We needed RADIUS services. No way to get those from Google. It's messy with AzureAD (you need to run AzureAD Domain Services and an NPS server in a VM), but possible.
* A lot of SAML app vendors only seem to know about the existence of (i.e. have built their SAML implementation based around) ADFS (which is close enough to AzureAD). Those either outright didn't work with Google, or involved a messy workaround and a heap of time.
* G-Suite only allows for OU-based access control to SAML apps (unless you want to implement and maintain some code to do this for you, which kind of defeats the point of cloud-based identity IMO). AzureAD can do this by groups or even ad-hoc users.
- manigandham 9y agoThis is an extra service, the same way you can use Onelogin or Okta on top of G-Suite to do federation and syncing. There's a free tier which is already included in G-Suite or Google Cloud and the premium tier which has more control: https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7319251 https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7319251
- askvictor 9y agoStill not entirely certain of the link between this and G-Suite. Do I understand correctly that G-Suite includes Cloud Identity (Free edition), but Premium addition is an optional add on to G-Suite? But both Free and Premium versions of Cloud Identity can be used without a G-Suite subscription? So the Free version is basically G-Suite without the productivity Apps? The site doesn't really make it clear what the Free Tier does, and seems to be pushing hard to sign up for the Free trial of premium.
- manigandham 9y agoYes, yes and yes. The marketing sucks and the documentation is a confusing mess, but this is what it looks like: 1) Cloud Identity Free = User accounts, SSO, with Google or external identity provider. 2) Cloud Identity Premium = Advanced user management, device control, compliance, reporting, etc. 3) G-Suite Productivity Apps 4) Google Cloud Platform G-Suite or GCP include Identity Free Edition, but you can use Identity on its own. And then you can always upgrade it to Premium edition for more control. https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7431902 https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/7431902