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> > "Sajeonogi," or "Knocked down four times, rising up five." > Is Korean really that much more efficient than English, or is that word a label? No, it's a 사
by w1ntermute 16y ago
> > "Sajeonogi," or "Knocked down four times, rising up five."
> Is Korean really that much more efficient than English, or is that word a label?
No, it's a 사자성어 (sajasongoh), or 4 character idiom. They originally come from Chinese, in which they're called chéngyǔ (成语 or 成語, in simplified and traditional characters, respectively), meaning "set phrase", and also exist in Japanese, in which they're called 四字熟語 (yojijukugo, literally "four character Chinese idiom").
Because of their origin in classical Chinese and their brevity, they're impossible to understand unless they're explained to you. In Asian countries, memorizing/understanding these proverbs is a big part of schooling.
I don't know the details of this particular sajasongoh, but I'm guessing that it either comes from classical Chinese or is a modified version of one that does. Modifying these proverbs to fit a particular situation is a common form of wordplay in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. For example, the Chosun Ilbo (a big Korean newspaper) loves doing this in their headlines.
- forensic 16y agoso it's like Brangelina
- kijinbear 16y agoMore like acronyms, I'd say. For example, "HTTP" = hyper-text transfer protocol. It's funny that the word 사자성어 (meaning: 4-character idiom) is itself a 4-character idiom. East Asians like 4-character groups so much, they even read numbers in groups of 4 digits. For example, 1,234,567,890 would be read 12 억 3456 만 7890.
- slowpoison 16y agoI doubt they like it. 4 is considered unlucky in East Asia. Elevators always read 1->2->3->5->... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraphobia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraphobia
- analyst74 16y agoAlthough 4 is considered unlucky in Chinese, decimal numbers is represented in 4-number groups, instead of 60 thousand, we'd have 6 wan, 800 million would be 8 yi, etc