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I think he/she gets it. It is possible to run your enterprise without using Google software that forces users to pour even more of their data into Google's gras

by natch 9y ago

I think he/she gets it. It is possible to run your enterprise without using Google software that forces users to pour even more of their data into Google's grasp. So I think the OP was saying that it would be desirable for those enterprises to allow employees an alternative, for those who do not wish to share even more with Google.

Gigablah 9y ago
Why does it matter whether they want to share their work data with Google? It's their company's decision. Their company owns the data. I hope you realize the insanity of the following exchange: "Bob, you should enter your sick leave in Workday." "But I don't want that company know about my sick days. Can I use something different instead?"
- icebraining 9y ago
  Actually, that example doesn't sound at all insane to me. What if Workday then sells the information that I'm sick a lot to future prospective employers or to health insurers? The employer should have a duty to adequately protect that information. It's not just "their" data.
  - mr_toad 9y ago
    I don’t know about the US law on confidential employee data, but in some countries selling data like that would be an open and shut lawsuit (against both Google and the employer).
- natch 9y ago
  Your example makes my point for me. Thank you.
  - Gigablah 9y ago
    Here's the rest of the exchange: "No, you may not. This is the software all employees use." "But Workday might sell my data!" "...alright, how about you fill in this Excel sheet." "No, Microsoft might be spying on me." "You're fired."
    - natch 9y ago
      You're confusing different types of data. Data that belongs to the employer, and personal data about the employee which is protected as personal and private as a matter of course, even within the enterprise context.
lagadu 9y ago
It's not their data, it's the company's data. They don't have access to the services with their personal accounts, only their corporate ones so any data that they pour in is professional work, which belongs to the company. Why would I possibly care that google is mining my company's AD structure or which documents I access in the corporate network? It's the company's problem.

by natch 9y ago

Gigablah 9y ago

Why does it matter whether they want to share their work data with Google? It's their company's decision. Their company owns the data. I hope you realize the insanity of the following exchange: "Bob, you should enter your sick leave in Workday." "But I don't want that company know about my sick days. Can I use something different instead?"

icebraining 9y ago
Actually, that example doesn't sound at all insane to me. What if Workday then sells the information that I'm sick a lot to future prospective employers or to health insurers? The employer should have a duty to adequately protect that information. It's not just "their" data.
- mr_toad 9y ago
  I don’t know about the US law on confidential employee data, but in some countries selling data like that would be an open and shut lawsuit (against both Google and the employer).
natch 9y ago
Your example makes my point for me. Thank you.
- Gigablah 9y ago
  Here's the rest of the exchange: "No, you may not. This is the software all employees use." "But Workday might sell my data!" "...alright, how about you fill in this Excel sheet." "No, Microsoft might be spying on me." "You're fired."
  - natch 9y ago
    You're confusing different types of data. Data that belongs to the employer, and personal data about the employee which is protected as personal and private as a matter of course, even within the enterprise context.

lagadu 9y ago

It's not their data, it's the company's data. They don't have access to the services with their personal accounts, only their corporate ones so any data that they pour in is professional work, which belongs to the company. Why would I possibly care that google is mining my company's AD structure or which documents I access in the corporate network? It's the company's problem.