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JDK 10 is out

35 points by SoulMan 9y ago

skybrian 9y ago
"Java 9 is obsolete [...]. What? You haven't upgraded yet? Well, Java 10 is only going to last six months before it is obsolete too." http://blog.joda.org/2018/02/java-9-has-six-weeks-to-live.html http://blog.joda.org/2018/02/java-9-has-six-weeks-to-live.ht...
- some_account 9y ago
  Yeah I was surprised by this announcement. Haven't even checked out Java 9 yet.
- kqr 9y ago
  This explains why there were so many big numbers in the openjdk-* package section in my distro. I had assumed they werr placeholders for some reason.
IloveHN84 9y ago
The worst part has yet to come: ditching JavaFX, One have to build it itself (OpenKFX), which translates to _none_ is doing it. Until now, there's no OpenJDK9/10 with JavaFX modules (including WebKit)
- bb88 9y ago
  God I'm old. I remember when JavaFX was announced, how it was going to change the web and the way we develop. I also remember after about 1 year later talking with someone how JavaFX was DOA.
DoritoChef 9y ago
Why would Oracle do this to their language? It seems like a surefire way to make sure a business will never choose Java ever again. When it comes to languages, I think there's definitely a right and a wrong way to implement changes. It's been four years since I tried to do any Java programming, but I know there are many business who are trying to build codebases that last even longer than that. Are we transitioning into a workplace where language stability is a thing of the past? Is it already a thing of the past?
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Because everyone else is going into shorter release cycles. Java either runs with them, or keeps being the last to add certain features. Thankfully not all business are crufty enterprise servers running Java 1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 5.
- klez 9y ago
  The plan is to release a version every six months and a LTS release every three years. If a business wants a stable version they can go with the LTS. I don't see how this changes anything from how it was done before.
thisisit 9y ago
While Oracle keeps churning out newer Java versions, their products still use the obsolete version. Oracle ERP is notorious at my workplace for being the only app still relying on applets to work. IT security guys go nuts over this. But Oracle is of no help. Their support team always deflect responsibility. Their defense is that product is deployed behind a corporate firewall. So, it should be safe to use.

35 points by SoulMan 9y ago

"Java 9 is obsolete [...]. What? You haven't upgraded yet? Well, Java 10 is only going to last six months before it is obsolete too." http://blog.joda.org/2018/02/java-9-has-six-weeks-to-live.html http://blog.joda.org/2018/02/java-9-has-six-weeks-to-live.ht...

some_account 9y ago
Yeah I was surprised by this announcement. Haven't even checked out Java 9 yet.
kqr 9y ago
This explains why there were so many big numbers in the openjdk-* package section in my distro. I had assumed they werr placeholders for some reason.

IloveHN84 9y ago

The worst part has yet to come: ditching JavaFX, One have to build it itself (OpenKFX), which translates to _none_ is doing it. Until now, there's no OpenJDK9/10 with JavaFX modules (including WebKit)

bb88 9y ago
God I'm old. I remember when JavaFX was announced, how it was going to change the web and the way we develop. I also remember after about 1 year later talking with someone how JavaFX was DOA.

DoritoChef 9y ago

Why would Oracle do this to their language? It seems like a surefire way to make sure a business will never choose Java ever again. When it comes to languages, I think there's definitely a right and a wrong way to implement changes. It's been four years since I tried to do any Java programming, but I know there are many business who are trying to build codebases that last even longer than that. Are we transitioning into a workplace where language stability is a thing of the past? Is it already a thing of the past?

pjmlp 9y ago
Because everyone else is going into shorter release cycles. Java either runs with them, or keeps being the last to add certain features. Thankfully not all business are crufty enterprise servers running Java 1.4 on Red Hat Enterprise 5.
klez 9y ago
The plan is to release a version every six months and a LTS release every three years. If a business wants a stable version they can go with the LTS. I don't see how this changes anything from how it was done before.

thisisit 9y ago

While Oracle keeps churning out newer Java versions, their products still use the obsolete version. Oracle ERP is notorious at my workplace for being the only app still relying on applets to work. IT security guys go nuts over this. But Oracle is of no help. Their support team always deflect responsibility. Their defense is that product is deployed behind a corporate firewall. So, it should be safe to use.