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What's more, I suspect that if this exact same thing had been done by a company working for Obama's or Hillary's campaigns, nobody would have batted an eyelash.

What's more, I suspect that if this exact same thing had been done by a company working for Obama's or Hillary's campaigns, nobody would have batted an eyelash. PS - the reason that the regs wont happen during the trump years has nothing to do with the collusion investigation. He's put a mandate in place that for every reg to go into the federal register, two have to come out. His administration is in general very anti-regulation. Therefore, yes, absolutely no way he would ever regulate it ... but not for the reason you hypothesized.

bb88 9y ago
> nobody would have batted an eyelash. Doubtful, considering the number of scandals from this list that made major media attention: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_...
- cmac2992 9y ago
  Quite literally his campaign invented the tactic of scraping your friends list as a way to persuade voters. The important difference was CA used data that was gathered under the misleading guise of a personality quiz. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/the-obama-campaigns-digital-masterminds-cash-in.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/the-obama-campai...
  - culturestate 9y ago
    They were the first to deploy it on such a massive scale, but I can assure you they did not invent that concept.
    - ahtu123 9y ago
      Cambridge Analytica had 200 clients. Now not all of those are major elections but CA is also not the only player who's been doing this. Governments and shady organizations have been perfecting media-based mass manipulation for decades/centuries.
pteredactyl 9y ago
Exactly, I'm pretty sure Assange tweeted Sheryl Sandberg's emails to Podesta and the Clinton campaign stating the exact thing: 1. "Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook COO to Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, June 6, 2015" --https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790713289311387648 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790713289311387648 2."Facebook let us "suck out the ENTIRE social graph" because "they were on our side" -- Obama campaign team leader for 2012 " https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/975847209387380737 https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/975847209387380737
TarpitCarnivore 9y ago
The big difference is that the Obama campaign didn't try to hide their intention of having you sign up with Facebook. The 'research' firm tricked people into thinking it was a research study when they were in fact harvesting data for different means.
thousandautumns 9y ago
While I agree that I think the Obama campaign has largely gotten a pass for similar data collection and voter profiling activities, I think that part of the reason its getting such attention now is some of the accompanying scandalous tactics of CA being revealed along with their data efforts. Some of the undercover videos being released, particularly the one regarding the Sri Lankan election, look pretty bad.

bb88 9y ago

> nobody would have batted an eyelash. Doubtful, considering the number of scandals from this list that made major media attention: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_...

cmac2992 9y ago
Quite literally his campaign invented the tactic of scraping your friends list as a way to persuade voters. The important difference was CA used data that was gathered under the misleading guise of a personality quiz. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/the-obama-campaigns-digital-masterminds-cash-in.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/magazine/the-obama-campai...
- culturestate 9y ago
  They were the first to deploy it on such a massive scale, but I can assure you they did not invent that concept.
  - ahtu123 9y ago
    Cambridge Analytica had 200 clients. Now not all of those are major elections but CA is also not the only player who's been doing this. Governments and shady organizations have been perfecting media-based mass manipulation for decades/centuries.

pteredactyl 9y ago

Exactly, I'm pretty sure Assange tweeted Sheryl Sandberg's emails to Podesta and the Clinton campaign stating the exact thing: 1. "Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook COO to Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, June 6, 2015" --https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790713289311387648 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790713289311387648 2."Facebook let us "suck out the ENTIRE social graph" because "they were on our side" -- Obama campaign team leader for 2012 " https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/975847209387380737 https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/975847209387380737

TarpitCarnivore 9y ago

The big difference is that the Obama campaign didn't try to hide their intention of having you sign up with Facebook. The 'research' firm tricked people into thinking it was a research study when they were in fact harvesting data for different means.

thousandautumns 9y ago

While I agree that I think the Obama campaign has largely gotten a pass for similar data collection and voter profiling activities, I think that part of the reason its getting such attention now is some of the accompanying scandalous tactics of CA being revealed along with their data efforts. Some of the undercover videos being released, particularly the one regarding the Sri Lankan election, look pretty bad.