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When Obama Harvested Facebook Data in 2012, Everyone Cheered

13 points by andrenth 9y ago

diek00 9y ago
Fails to mention the influence of a foreign power... are you cheering about that?
- andrenth 9y ago
  So harvesting Facebook data without authorization is fine as long as it’s done by Americans? That’s not what people were saying, at least until someone remembered the Obama campaign. Either way, https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposing-barack-obamas-illegal-foreign-campaign-money-loophole-n710300 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposi...
- Huhty 9y ago
  And blackmail and/or extortion.
snowwrestler 9y ago
Because they asked people to opt in, told everyone what data they were collecting and why, and didn't lie about how the data got used. > This Facebook treasure trove gave Obama an unprecedented ability to reach out to nonsupporters. More important, the campaign could deliver carefully targeted campaign messages disguised as messages from friends to millions of Facebook users. They weren't "disguised." Messaging friends about Obama was the entire, publicly stated, purpose of the app. The only reason anyone opted into the app in the first place was to message their friends. That's the only way the Obama campaign advertised it. > in the case of Obama, they had no way of knowing that the Obama campaign material cluttering their feed wasn't really just political urgings from their friends. It really was just political urgings from their friends. The Obama app did post content on its own and the Obama campaign did not put any ad money behind it. It was a tool for people to harass their friends about Obama. It's not in any way analogous to what Cambridge Analytica did; the only commonality is that they were both Facebook apps. IBD might as well run an editorial titled "When Farmville Harvested Facebook Data, Everyone Cheered."
- DrScump 9y ago
  told everyone what data they were collecting Among the data collected was details on the "volunteers"' Friends, and all data those Friends left open to their Friends... but they did not consent to that, nor were they even informed of it after the fact.

13 points by andrenth 9y ago

diek00 9y ago

Fails to mention the influence of a foreign power... are you cheering about that?

andrenth 9y ago
So harvesting Facebook data without authorization is fine as long as it’s done by Americans? That’s not what people were saying, at least until someone remembered the Obama campaign. Either way, https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposing-barack-obamas-illegal-foreign-campaign-money-loophole-n710300 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposi...
Huhty 9y ago
And blackmail and/or extortion.

snowwrestler 9y ago

Because they asked people to opt in, told everyone what data they were collecting and why, and didn't lie about how the data got used. > This Facebook treasure trove gave Obama an unprecedented ability to reach out to nonsupporters. More important, the campaign could deliver carefully targeted campaign messages disguised as messages from friends to millions of Facebook users. They weren't "disguised." Messaging friends about Obama was the entire, publicly stated, purpose of the app. The only reason anyone opted into the app in the first place was to message their friends. That's the only way the Obama campaign advertised it. > in the case of Obama, they had no way of knowing that the Obama campaign material cluttering their feed wasn't really just political urgings from their friends. It really was just political urgings from their friends. The Obama app did post content on its own and the Obama campaign did not put any ad money behind it. It was a tool for people to harass their friends about Obama. It's not in any way analogous to what Cambridge Analytica did; the only commonality is that they were both Facebook apps. IBD might as well run an editorial titled "When Farmville Harvested Facebook Data, Everyone Cheered."

DrScump 9y ago
told everyone what data they were collecting Among the data collected was details on the "volunteers"' Friends, and all data those Friends left open to their Friends... but they did not consent to that, nor were they even informed of it after the fact.