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Which you follow up with a vulgarity? Come on. Be better than that. If your goal is to improve online discourse, lead by example.

by grzm 9y ago

to3m 9y ago
Sorry about that, I thought my lead-in was obvious and you were playing the straight man :( Still, I stand by what I said. EDIT: OK, OK, so after snoozing on it for ten minutes, perhaps I can see why it might appear that I'm more right than you are to a lesser extent than is truly the case. Even though there's nothing for me to apologise for, perhaps I should at least have taken the high road. What can I say? I'm just reluctant to sit by and stay silent when people seem to blaming the victim so enthusiastically.
- danso 9y ago
  I don't see how "ped" is necessarily an offensive abbreviation (though it's one that normally isn't used), so I don't think you're justified in believing that the commenter is trying to dehumanize the victim.
  - to3m 9y ago
    If they want to abbreviate "pedestrian", why not "person"? I've never seen anybody use the term "ped" anything other than disparagingly! How should we respond to this attitude? I know what I think, that's for sure: it's crap, and people in charge of operating motorised vehicles should take more care over how they think about people on foot, to ensure that they never behave too carelessly in the heat of the moment. Anyway: I think I've set out my stall here to the extent necessary. You and anybody else may make of it what you will. Drive with care, and for fuck's sake don't kill anybody.
    - prawn 9y ago
      There are "PED XING" signs in the US for pedestrian crossings. I don't think it's considered disparaging. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ped+xing&source=lnms&tbm=isch https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ped+xing&source=lnms&tbm=...
      - to3m 9y ago
        Right - and in America you're not even allowed to cross the road! To the extent that when a self-driving car runs somebody over, "but but they were in the road" is somehow an adequate defence! If you want to consider this a cultural misunderstanding, fine. What can I do about that? Nothing. But please, before I go, because I can tell I'm not making much of an impact here, let me say it again: drive carefully, and for fuck's sake don't kill anybody. (and please tell the robots too!)
        emj 9y ago
        As a non native speaker I'm reacting to the use of Ped as well, that paired with the obvious victim blaming that seems to be thrown around a lot, but to a much lesser extent here than in other forums discussing this issue. Driving is a sensitive subject, people take it personal trying to do generalizations about drivers is just going to land you in a land of troubles, almost worse than profanity.

Which you follow up with a vulgarity? Come on. Be better than that. If your goal is to improve online discourse, lead by example.

by grzm 9y ago

Which you follow up with a vulgarity? Come on. Be better than that. If your goal is to improve online discourse, lead by example.

to3m 9y ago

Sorry about that, I thought my lead-in was obvious and you were playing the straight man :( Still, I stand by what I said. EDIT: OK, OK, so after snoozing on it for ten minutes, perhaps I can see why it might appear that I'm more right than you are to a lesser extent than is truly the case. Even though there's nothing for me to apologise for, perhaps I should at least have taken the high road. What can I say? I'm just reluctant to sit by and stay silent when people seem to blaming the victim so enthusiastically.

danso 9y ago
I don't see how "ped" is necessarily an offensive abbreviation (though it's one that normally isn't used), so I don't think you're justified in believing that the commenter is trying to dehumanize the victim.
- to3m 9y ago
  If they want to abbreviate "pedestrian", why not "person"? I've never seen anybody use the term "ped" anything other than disparagingly! How should we respond to this attitude? I know what I think, that's for sure: it's crap, and people in charge of operating motorised vehicles should take more care over how they think about people on foot, to ensure that they never behave too carelessly in the heat of the moment. Anyway: I think I've set out my stall here to the extent necessary. You and anybody else may make of it what you will. Drive with care, and for fuck's sake don't kill anybody.
  - prawn 9y ago
    There are "PED XING" signs in the US for pedestrian crossings. I don't think it's considered disparaging. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ped+xing&source=lnms&tbm=isch https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ped+xing&source=lnms&tbm=...
    - to3m 9y ago
      Right - and in America you're not even allowed to cross the road! To the extent that when a self-driving car runs somebody over, "but but they were in the road" is somehow an adequate defence! If you want to consider this a cultural misunderstanding, fine. What can I do about that? Nothing. But please, before I go, because I can tell I'm not making much of an impact here, let me say it again: drive carefully, and for fuck's sake don't kill anybody. (and please tell the robots too!)
      - emj 9y ago
        As a non native speaker I'm reacting to the use of Ped as well, that paired with the obvious victim blaming that seems to be thrown around a lot, but to a much lesser extent here than in other forums discussing this issue. Driving is a sensitive subject, people take it personal trying to do generalizations about drivers is just going to land you in a land of troubles, almost worse than profanity.