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Isn't Stellar cheap and fast enough to not need any Lightning Network at all?

runako 9y ago
Compared to other cryptos, Stellar is fast. Compared to credit card networks, Stellar is very slow. If one of their goals is to replace credit cards and other money movement mechanisms (as I believe is the case), they need to speed transactions up significantly.
- thinkloop 9y ago
  The question then becomes what the point of Stellar is
  - staplers 9y ago
    To give the original creators (who pre-mined something like 17 billion tokens) a giant amount of money. https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6bi958/ripple_was_100_premined_stellar_was_97_premined/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6bi958/ripp...
    - EastSmith 9y ago
      Unlike Ripple, where the pre-mined tokens are held by individuals, the pre-mined stellar tokens are owned by Stellar Development Foundation, a nonprofit corporation. Here are some quotes, but do check the link bellow too: "SDF manages the execution of lumen distribution, with oversight and direction provided by SDF’s Expansion Board. The initial lumens held by SDF are required to be distributed to the world in the following manner: 50% for distribution via the Direct Sign-up Program 25% for distribution via the Partnership Program 20% for distribution via the Bitcoin Program 5% held by SDF to support operational costs" https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/ https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/
      - proofofmoon 9y ago
        How much control does Jed McCaleb have over this foundation?
      - tiddlywinks12 9y ago
        Are there any updates on the status of SDF as a non-profit? https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/17500-a-stellar-story/ https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/17500-a-stellar-story/ suggests their tax exempt status is at least unclear.
    - fiatjaf 9y ago
      Nothing could have been premined since there is no mining on Stellar.
  - osteele 9y ago
    Can handle fiat currencies; supports regulatory compliance (KYC, AML). Compared to Bitcoin: lower transaction fees, faster, lower energy costs. (Stellar without Lightning is magnitudes faster and cheaper than Bitcoin without Lightning. Stellar with Lightning should be faster and cheaper than Bitcoin with Lightning — assuming the Stellar network is equally well-connected, which it might not be.)
manojlds 9y ago
Read the blog?

Compared to other cryptos, Stellar is fast. Compared to credit card networks, Stellar is very slow. If one of their goals is to replace credit cards and other money movement mechanisms (as I believe is the case), they need to speed transactions up significantly.

thinkloop 9y ago
The question then becomes what the point of Stellar is
- staplers 9y ago
  To give the original creators (who pre-mined something like 17 billion tokens) a giant amount of money. https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6bi958/ripple_was_100_premined_stellar_was_97_premined/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6bi958/ripp...
  - EastSmith 9y ago
    Unlike Ripple, where the pre-mined tokens are held by individuals, the pre-mined stellar tokens are owned by Stellar Development Foundation, a nonprofit corporation. Here are some quotes, but do check the link bellow too: "SDF manages the execution of lumen distribution, with oversight and direction provided by SDF’s Expansion Board. The initial lumens held by SDF are required to be distributed to the world in the following manner: 50% for distribution via the Direct Sign-up Program 25% for distribution via the Partnership Program 20% for distribution via the Bitcoin Program 5% held by SDF to support operational costs" https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/ https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/
    - proofofmoon 9y ago
      How much control does Jed McCaleb have over this foundation?
    - tiddlywinks12 9y ago
      Are there any updates on the status of SDF as a non-profit? https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/17500-a-stellar-story/ https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/17500-a-stellar-story/ suggests their tax exempt status is at least unclear.
  - fiatjaf 9y ago
    Nothing could have been premined since there is no mining on Stellar.
- osteele 9y ago
  Can handle fiat currencies; supports regulatory compliance (KYC, AML). Compared to Bitcoin: lower transaction fees, faster, lower energy costs. (Stellar without Lightning is magnitudes faster and cheaper than Bitcoin without Lightning. Stellar with Lightning should be faster and cheaper than Bitcoin with Lightning — assuming the Stellar network is equally well-connected, which it might not be.)

manojlds 9y ago

Read the blog?