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Facebook has suspended all social accounts of Cambridge Analytica whistleblower

58 points by neya 9y ago

mtgx 9y ago
The account deletion page doesn't seem to be working either. Interesting coincidence, with yesterday's #deletefacebook campaign and all. https://www.facebook.com/account/delete https://www.facebook.com/account/delete What I want to know is who are the people at Facebook that actually think they can get away with such shenanigans, when all of the media's attention is on them? Are they really that oblivious?
- portofcall 9y ago
  The ones who have gotten away with it so far to the tune of billions of users and dollars? The ones counting on a short media-public memory and attention span, and to all of our misfortune, they may be right. If you want that to change, it’s going to take more than transient outrage.
- ucha 9y ago
  The account deletion still works. It's here: https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account
- mrarjen 9y ago
  Blowing the whistle seems to be the fastest way to get an account removed now a days. Just getting the media to pick it up is the tricky part.
r721 9y ago
Recent discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16620454 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16620454
kareemm 9y ago
I've said it before, but it's shocking that Facebook has escaped regulation thus far. They have 1,860,000,000 monthly active users. What other business has this many customers (or "product") AND can profoundly impact its users happiness... AND goes unregulated?
- portofcall 9y ago
  Twitter, Snap, Instagram, Uber, Palantir, and pretty much every SV unicorn which exists because the law is slow to react and they’re running at full tilt? This seems like the accepted playbook in SV, and until recently it was lauded on this site and elsewhere. That’s how.
  - TAForObvReasons 9y ago
    "move fast and break things", including laws and ethical standards
  - kareemm 9y ago
    Being lauded on HN has zero impact on regulation. What amazes me is that there's so little regard for privacy amongst legislators (and by extension their constituents, I suppose) that these behemoth companies have escaped so far.
Chardok 9y ago
This fact alone should be reason enough to leave Facebook for good. Facebook's goal is to be the middleman for all communication, and why the hell would you trust a corporation that can blacklist you from all of their platforms with a snap of a finger?
- Freak_NL 9y ago
  I've never accepted any of Facebook's offerings, because I don't find their terms of service acceptable. But I'm an idiosyncratic exception (certainly not alone here on HN, but statistically speaking rare). Ask any of the millions and millions of people who built their online lives around Facebook's offerings (including Whatsapp and Instagram) though, and you'll likely get a variety of answers along these lines: Some say all this stuff doesn't impact them (I have nothing to hide, and don't do anything illegal). Some say they have no alternative (I need Whatsapp, because if I stop using it I'll miss all important messages about my kids' sports training schedule/birthday parties/extracurricular activities/scout troop/school committees — this is currently true for parents of young children in the Netherlands). Some are afraid of losing contact with those who choose to do everything on Facebook. Some are simply addicted to social media (well, not many will give you that as an answer truthfully, but it's certainly a factor). Some feel that a behemoth like Facebook should be regulated by the government, and trust that someone else will protect their interests (i.e., they treat Facebook and its subsidiaries like a an unavoidable utility, and don't feel that they have a choice in the matter).
ttflee 9y ago
Mr Zuckerberg must have learned a lot during his trips to China!
ucaetano 9y ago
I've been monitoring the "trending news" section on Facebook since yesterday, just for fun. There has been zero mentions of Facebook, Cambridge Analytica or any related news.
- deleted 9y ago
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- Froyoh 9y ago
  Tbh that's not surprising at all
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ikeboy 9y ago
"hey guys I helped steal your data for profit, but I've come clean now, why are you still upset with me?" Yeah no, whistleblowing doesn't absolve you from the bad stuff you did.
- Tostino 9y ago
  It goes a long way, especially if they were part of a much larger group. Breaking rank and whistle blowing is something to be commended.
  - ikeboy 9y ago
    I don't think that extends as far as expecting a company that was in some sense the victim to welcome them with open arms.
pocm_2 9y ago
"Shun the nonbeliever."
mschuster91 9y ago
It's time to regulate Facebook (and the other social networks, like Twitter, Google Mail, Youtube, Whatsapp), like telcos in Germany. For example, unless I commit crimes using my internet/phone uplink or stay behind more than 75€ on payment, my provider has no right to terminate my account given the importance for communications. Facebook, Twitter and friends can decide to terminate my public handles and cut me off from communication with anyone without any legal way of recourse. This is not OK given their importance to modern communication.

58 points by neya 9y ago

mtgx 9y ago

The account deletion page doesn't seem to be working either. Interesting coincidence, with yesterday's #deletefacebook campaign and all. https://www.facebook.com/account/delete https://www.facebook.com/account/delete What I want to know is who are the people at Facebook that actually think they can get away with such shenanigans, when all of the media's attention is on them? Are they really that oblivious?

portofcall 9y ago
The ones who have gotten away with it so far to the tune of billions of users and dollars? The ones counting on a short media-public memory and attention span, and to all of our misfortune, they may be right. If you want that to change, it’s going to take more than transient outrage.
ucha 9y ago
The account deletion still works. It's here: https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account
mrarjen 9y ago
Blowing the whistle seems to be the fastest way to get an account removed now a days. Just getting the media to pick it up is the tricky part.

r721 9y ago

Recent discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16620454 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16620454

kareemm 9y ago

I've said it before, but it's shocking that Facebook has escaped regulation thus far. They have 1,860,000,000 monthly active users. What other business has this many customers (or "product") AND can profoundly impact its users happiness... AND goes unregulated?

portofcall 9y ago
Twitter, Snap, Instagram, Uber, Palantir, and pretty much every SV unicorn which exists because the law is slow to react and they’re running at full tilt? This seems like the accepted playbook in SV, and until recently it was lauded on this site and elsewhere. That’s how.
- TAForObvReasons 9y ago
  "move fast and break things", including laws and ethical standards
- kareemm 9y ago
  Being lauded on HN has zero impact on regulation. What amazes me is that there's so little regard for privacy amongst legislators (and by extension their constituents, I suppose) that these behemoth companies have escaped so far.

Chardok 9y ago

This fact alone should be reason enough to leave Facebook for good. Facebook's goal is to be the middleman for all communication, and why the hell would you trust a corporation that can blacklist you from all of their platforms with a snap of a finger?

Freak_NL 9y ago
I've never accepted any of Facebook's offerings, because I don't find their terms of service acceptable. But I'm an idiosyncratic exception (certainly not alone here on HN, but statistically speaking rare). Ask any of the millions and millions of people who built their online lives around Facebook's offerings (including Whatsapp and Instagram) though, and you'll likely get a variety of answers along these lines: Some say all this stuff doesn't impact them (I have nothing to hide, and don't do anything illegal). Some say they have no alternative (I need Whatsapp, because if I stop using it I'll miss all important messages about my kids' sports training schedule/birthday parties/extracurricular activities/scout troop/school committees — this is currently true for parents of young children in the Netherlands). Some are afraid of losing contact with those who choose to do everything on Facebook. Some are simply addicted to social media (well, not many will give you that as an answer truthfully, but it's certainly a factor). Some feel that a behemoth like Facebook should be regulated by the government, and trust that someone else will protect their interests (i.e., they treat Facebook and its subsidiaries like a an unavoidable utility, and don't feel that they have a choice in the matter).

ttflee 9y ago

Mr Zuckerberg must have learned a lot during his trips to China!

ucaetano 9y ago

I've been monitoring the "trending news" section on Facebook since yesterday, just for fun. There has been zero mentions of Facebook, Cambridge Analytica or any related news.

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Froyoh 9y ago
Tbh that's not surprising at all

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ikeboy 9y ago

"hey guys I helped steal your data for profit, but I've come clean now, why are you still upset with me?" Yeah no, whistleblowing doesn't absolve you from the bad stuff you did.

Tostino 9y ago
It goes a long way, especially if they were part of a much larger group. Breaking rank and whistle blowing is something to be commended.
- ikeboy 9y ago
  I don't think that extends as far as expecting a company that was in some sense the victim to welcome them with open arms.

pocm_2 9y ago

"Shun the nonbeliever."

mschuster91 9y ago

It's time to regulate Facebook (and the other social networks, like Twitter, Google Mail, Youtube, Whatsapp), like telcos in Germany. For example, unless I commit crimes using my internet/phone uplink or stay behind more than 75€ on payment, my provider has no right to terminate my account given the importance for communications. Facebook, Twitter and friends can decide to terminate my public handles and cut me off from communication with anyone without any legal way of recourse. This is not OK given their importance to modern communication.