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I am tracking AliYun / Alibaba Cloud for some time now. They are expanding internationally with strong pace. You would not ramp up that amount of Capex without
by oger 9y ago
I am tracking AliYun / Alibaba Cloud for some time now. They are expanding internationally with strong pace. You would not ramp up that amount of Capex without sales momentum. I hear that Alibaba Cloud is gaining significant traction outside of China and offer a highly interesting solution for non-Chinese companies to provide services in China (even assisting their customers to obtain the necessary licenses). Their product portfolio in China is significantly larger than their international offering - but that is growing as well. I was at their Cloud conferences in Hangzhou twice in 2017 and 2016 and honestly I was blown away by the depth and quality of their portfolio. From AI / ML over cybersecurity to quantum computing they are doing the right moves. I remember impressive figures on their DDoS protection solution. And they can do IoT and.. and... and.... And their compute and storage platform is massively scalable. Just look up what levels of traffic Alibaba could handle on its ‚singles day‘ event (comparable to black friday and cyber monday - combined). So for me Alibaba Cloud definitely has the chops to become a global Top 3 player! Definitely comparable to AWS, GCP, Azure and a platform you should test. Happy to elaborate more - PM me.
- gaius 9y agooffer a highly interesting solution for non-Chinese companies to provide services in China (even assisting their customers to obtain the necessary licenses) Do you need a highly interesting solution with necessary licenses to use any other cloud in any other country?
- lovemenot 9y agoIt's a fair point. But licenses could be the right direction to go in future. Consider GDPR for doing business in Europe: that seems to be a good thing for data privacy. Cloud services that are licensed to provide GDPR assistance in Europe would be good for both clients and European consumers.
- oger 9y agoThat’s not the point. You need them when you want to provide services in China. And it’s a non-trivial endeavor, especially for non-Chinese companies. Most multinationals face this challenge when providing online services for their Chinese customers - ranging from software distribution to content management. And you need to play by the rules in every jurisdiction around the globe. GDPR is just another example, like it or not.
- windowsworkstoo 9y agoI have Aliyun in my mix of providers that we use..they do a pretty good job overall and imo are the best option for serving mainland China if that is a requirement...they alsp have good options for MENA
- votepaunchy 9y agoPublishing public pricing would be a good starter. Some bundles are advertised (copying Lightsail which copied Digital Ocean), but apparently actual pricing is hidden behind "Get Started For Free".
- oblio 9y agoEven if they have the chops they still have a long way to go, based on what I see online about them. I've used AWS quite a bit, and they have amazing breadth and depth. After a few minutes of research for Alibaba Cloud, they seem to have the breadth but I'm not entirely convinced about their depth. The documentation is quite clear but quite narrow (they only seem to have a Python SDK?) and there doesn't seem to be much buzz online for their platform, though (i.e. blog posts about them, forum comments; most of the Google results for searches about them return only alibabacloud.com pages). In any case, more competition is better, so they're definitely worth keeping an eye on.
- jpatokal 9y agoRe: "buzz online": in English, sure, but try searching for "阿里云 -site:aliyun.com" and you'll find a lot more.