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I don’t think that the opinion of the police is at all relevant here, since they have no tools for investigating how self-driving cars react in accidents. The

I don’t think that the opinion of the police is at all relevant here, since they have no tools for investigating how self-driving cars react in accidents. The sensors and reaction time of a self-driving car are entirely different from a human, so it’s possible that a crash for which a human is not at fault could be averted by properly programmed self-driving car software.

cloakandswagger 9y ago
You don't think the opinion of the police is relevant in a homicide? The opinion of people who have investigated hundreds if not thousands of similar accidents? Who meets your criteria for expertise on saying whether the car could have stopped or not? Uber?
- goshx 9y ago
  If there is data to be reviewed, that’s your best bet against someone who was not even there.
  - cloakandswagger 9y ago
    There is data...in the form of a video taken by the car that hit her. You don't need a team of PhDs to watch it and make a judgment call.
    - telchar 9y ago
      What about the other sensor data? Did the police watch the LIDAR pointclouds and the RADAR maps too? Or are they basing their judgement on only one sense input? Seems to be the latter which means they're spouting off without knowing what they're talking about.
    - goshx 9y ago
      But you need access to that data first.
- akamaka 9y ago
  The police investigators have no way of knowing if a fault exists in the software. I hope the raw sensor data will be released to experts who can simulate how different versions of software would have handled the situation.
trothamel 9y ago
Can't the police fairly easily determine who had the right of way? Given how simple the rule is, it seems like one of the first things a police officer would have done.
- carlmr 9y ago
  Right of way doesn't absolve you of fault. If you have the right of way, but a pedestrian goes on the street anyway, you have the duty to stop/slow down to the best of what's possible.

cloakandswagger 9y ago

You don't think the opinion of the police is relevant in a homicide? The opinion of people who have investigated hundreds if not thousands of similar accidents? Who meets your criteria for expertise on saying whether the car could have stopped or not? Uber?

goshx 9y ago
If there is data to be reviewed, that’s your best bet against someone who was not even there.
- cloakandswagger 9y ago
  There is data...in the form of a video taken by the car that hit her. You don't need a team of PhDs to watch it and make a judgment call.
  - telchar 9y ago
    What about the other sensor data? Did the police watch the LIDAR pointclouds and the RADAR maps too? Or are they basing their judgement on only one sense input? Seems to be the latter which means they're spouting off without knowing what they're talking about.
  - goshx 9y ago
    But you need access to that data first.
akamaka 9y ago
The police investigators have no way of knowing if a fault exists in the software. I hope the raw sensor data will be released to experts who can simulate how different versions of software would have handled the situation.

trothamel 9y ago

Can't the police fairly easily determine who had the right of way? Given how simple the rule is, it seems like one of the first things a police officer would have done.

carlmr 9y ago
Right of way doesn't absolve you of fault. If you have the right of way, but a pedestrian goes on the street anyway, you have the duty to stop/slow down to the best of what's possible.