Ah, based on some other comments, I think I see what you mean with fatigue, because you have to use HTML/CSS/JS or something that compiles into this like Clojur

Ah, based on some other comments, I think I see what you mean with fatigue, because you have to use HTML/CSS/JS or something that compiles into this like Clojurescript and you still have to know what javascript is and how it works to get anything useful done on the front-end. I am praying for a really slick alternative to come soon, where we can capture clicks and events and still keep some sanity with regards to layout, structure, and tying things into the backend via message passing.