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Just get the f### off Facebook, already. If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based

Just get the f### off Facebook, already. If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. If you don't like how Facebook is being used as an addictive propaganda tool by any and all political actors, including Facebook itself, then get the f### off Facebook. Ask the Facebook "friends" you care about for an email address, phone number, or other messaging account and get the f### off Facebook. You don't need up to the minute information on the playdate of your cousin's college room mate's toddler. Get the f### off Facebook.

maxerickson 9y ago
Enough with the #. If you want to swear, swear. If you don't want to swear, don't. For fuck's sake.
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- horsecaptin 9y ago
  I'm feeling very outraged.
- fancyfish 9y ago
  Hell yeah, as a New Yorker I wholeheartedly agree.
  - DogPawHat 9y ago
    As a fecking Irishman, I also agree
    - BrandoElFollito 9y ago
      Moi aussi, crotte.
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- maxlybbert 9y ago
  I remember a Louis C.K. routine about the phrase “the N word.” He summarized it as “I’m not going to say the word, but I’m still going to put it in your head.”
  - latexr 9y ago
    https://youtu.be/dF1NUposXVQ https://youtu.be/dF1NUposXVQ (2m54s)
- Yetanfou 9y ago
  There's some interesting analysis waiting to be done on the preference for words from a certain category to be used as expletives in different languages. Let's start with English, a language most here seem to be familiar with. English seems to prefer sexual acts (fuck), sexual organs (cunt, dick, bollocks), excrement (shit, piss), the combination of the two (fucking asshole/cunt/...), religion (damn, goddamn, etc) and more. In Dutch, my native language, one is more likely to use diseases (kanker (=cancer), tering (=tuberculosis), typhus (=typhoid fever), etc)), hardly any sexual acts or organs (only 'lul (=dick)' really although 'mierenneuker' (=ant fucker) is also a common mild swear word), excrement (schijt (=shit), zeiken/zeikert/zeikstraal (=to piss/someone who pisses/jet of piss)), religion (verdomme (=damn), godverdomme (=goddammit). Swedish, my second language, is not a good language for swearing as it uses rather silly, powerless words of sometimes dubious origin, mostly related to religion (fan (=the devil), satan, (i) helvete (=(what the) hell)), sexual organs (kuk (=dick), fitta (=cunt)), excrement (skit (=shit)) and what seem to be random words (sjutton (=the number seventeen...?)), weird combinations (jävla skitstövel (=devilish shit boot)). German is the most proficient swearing language I know, both due to its rich vocabulary as well as the satisfying vocalisation offered by the language, using words from just about all categories except for diseases (wherein it differs from the related Dutch language). I also know French but my knowledge of French swear words is lacking beyond the basics.
IAmGraydon 9y ago
>If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. Yeah - see that's not how it works. CA and companies like them have developed far more clever ways to influence you than targeted advertising. The best of these techniques go undetected by you, and are coordinated by machine learning systems which know more about you than you do. Basically, if you are online, you are under their influence whether you know it or not. Don't fall for the illusion that you aren't susceptible. As emotional as you appear to be from your posting style, you are exactly the kind of person that they target.
- fortythirteen 9y ago
  Don't mistake my form of emphasis as overly-emotional behavior, or my statements as any indication that I see myself as significantly more rational than the average person. There are steps you can take to make yourself less susceptible to propaganda, and it starts with disengaging from the Huxleyan, social media, dopamine machine. Until you do that it's near impossible to get a real sense of your own cognitive biases.
  - olleromam91 9y ago
    So the millions of voters that are by any definition technically illiterate and consumed by said dopamine machine...possible your loved ones...do you not seek justice for their sake?
    - fortythirteen 9y ago
      Justice? Because political actors used the available tools to their advantage? If we're going to go down that line, what justice should be served to Jimmy Kimmel, who regularly pushes his political agenda in what's supposed to be a variety show?
AgentME 9y ago
>If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. The people that vote based on targeted advertising may not be the ones that have a problem with it. This is like if people complained the pool has too much pee in it, you told the complainers to stop peeing in it.
fudged71 9y ago
This is a very privileged perspective. Facebook spent years getting billions of people on the platform and those users haven't left due to lock-in. They are connected to their families, their businesses, their friends.
- pier25 9y ago
  Indeed. I barely use Facebook anymore but because I live in a different country that's how I keep up with friends and family. If someone wanted to contact me they would do it through Facebook.
arca_vorago 9y ago
My problem is that they compile information on people whether or not they have a fb profile (the shadow profile). There is something about this (and various other privacy violating aggregators for hire) that really bother me. We should be having a discussion on a broader solution that applies to control of a persons data from all third parties, not just singling out facebook. This is why I am on the fence between deleting the account and just poisoning the data.

maxerickson 9y ago

Enough with the #. If you want to swear, swear. If you don't want to swear, don't. For fuck's sake.

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horsecaptin 9y ago
I'm feeling very outraged.
fancyfish 9y ago
Hell yeah, as a New Yorker I wholeheartedly agree.
- DogPawHat 9y ago
  As a fecking Irishman, I also agree
  - BrandoElFollito 9y ago
    Moi aussi, crotte.
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maxlybbert 9y ago
I remember a Louis C.K. routine about the phrase “the N word.” He summarized it as “I’m not going to say the word, but I’m still going to put it in your head.”
- latexr 9y ago
  https://youtu.be/dF1NUposXVQ https://youtu.be/dF1NUposXVQ (2m54s)
Yetanfou 9y ago
There's some interesting analysis waiting to be done on the preference for words from a certain category to be used as expletives in different languages. Let's start with English, a language most here seem to be familiar with. English seems to prefer sexual acts (fuck), sexual organs (cunt, dick, bollocks), excrement (shit, piss), the combination of the two (fucking asshole/cunt/...), religion (damn, goddamn, etc) and more. In Dutch, my native language, one is more likely to use diseases (kanker (=cancer), tering (=tuberculosis), typhus (=typhoid fever), etc)), hardly any sexual acts or organs (only 'lul (=dick)' really although 'mierenneuker' (=ant fucker) is also a common mild swear word), excrement (schijt (=shit), zeiken/zeikert/zeikstraal (=to piss/someone who pisses/jet of piss)), religion (verdomme (=damn), godverdomme (=goddammit). Swedish, my second language, is not a good language for swearing as it uses rather silly, powerless words of sometimes dubious origin, mostly related to religion (fan (=the devil), satan, (i) helvete (=(what the) hell)), sexual organs (kuk (=dick), fitta (=cunt)), excrement (skit (=shit)) and what seem to be random words (sjutton (=the number seventeen...?)), weird combinations (jävla skitstövel (=devilish shit boot)). German is the most proficient swearing language I know, both due to its rich vocabulary as well as the satisfying vocalisation offered by the language, using words from just about all categories except for diseases (wherein it differs from the related Dutch language). I also know French but my knowledge of French swear words is lacking beyond the basics.

IAmGraydon 9y ago

>If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. Yeah - see that's not how it works. CA and companies like them have developed far more clever ways to influence you than targeted advertising. The best of these techniques go undetected by you, and are coordinated by machine learning systems which know more about you than you do. Basically, if you are online, you are under their influence whether you know it or not. Don't fall for the illusion that you aren't susceptible. As emotional as you appear to be from your posting style, you are exactly the kind of person that they target.

fortythirteen 9y ago
Don't mistake my form of emphasis as overly-emotional behavior, or my statements as any indication that I see myself as significantly more rational than the average person. There are steps you can take to make yourself less susceptible to propaganda, and it starts with disengaging from the Huxleyan, social media, dopamine machine. Until you do that it's near impossible to get a real sense of your own cognitive biases.
- olleromam91 9y ago
  So the millions of voters that are by any definition technically illiterate and consumed by said dopamine machine...possible your loved ones...do you not seek justice for their sake?
  - fortythirteen 9y ago
    Justice? Because political actors used the available tools to their advantage? If we're going to go down that line, what justice should be served to Jimmy Kimmel, who regularly pushes his political agenda in what's supposed to be a variety show?

AgentME 9y ago

>If you're the kind of person who votes based on targeted advertising, or the hyperbolic posts of people who vote based on targeted advertising, don't ask Facebook to change. Get the f### off Facebook. The people that vote based on targeted advertising may not be the ones that have a problem with it. This is like if people complained the pool has too much pee in it, you told the complainers to stop peeing in it.

fudged71 9y ago

This is a very privileged perspective. Facebook spent years getting billions of people on the platform and those users haven't left due to lock-in. They are connected to their families, their businesses, their friends.

pier25 9y ago
Indeed. I barely use Facebook anymore but because I live in a different country that's how I keep up with friends and family. If someone wanted to contact me they would do it through Facebook.

arca_vorago 9y ago

My problem is that they compile information on people whether or not they have a fb profile (the shadow profile). There is something about this (and various other privacy violating aggregators for hire) that really bother me. We should be having a discussion on a broader solution that applies to control of a persons data from all third parties, not just singling out facebook. This is why I am on the fence between deleting the account and just poisoning the data.