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This is looking worse and worse for Uber.

hourislate 9y ago
I can't imagine how bad it looks for Non Autonomous cars considering the 100's of pedestrians that are killed everyday in the USA.
- Jackim 9y ago
  100s a day is a little off, the figure is around 11 per day. Not saying that's great, though.
- Anechoic 9y ago
  considering the 100's of pedestrians that are killed everyday in the USA According to the CDC, 5,376 pedestrians were killed in car accidents in 2015. According to the WashPo, 28,642 pedestrians were killed in car accidents from 2010-2015. That gives a rate of 13-15 pedestrians killed per day in the USA. Too much, yes, but not hundreds of pedestrians killed everyday. https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/pedestrian_safety/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/pedestrian_safety/ind... https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/pedestrian-deaths-soar-in-the-uneven-battles-with-cars/2017/03/29/9984cc56-141c-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/ped...
- danso 9y ago
  "100's of pedestrians"? 2017 was a record high for pedestrian fatalities, at ~6,000: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/28/589453431/pedestrian-fatalities-remain-at-25-year-high-for-second-year-in-a-row https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/28/589453431... The urban fatality rate of all fatalities is 1 per 100 million miles traveled: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/810625 https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/... As of September 2017, all of Uber's autonomous cars have driven a total of 1 million miles over a period of 2.5 years: https://www.axios.com/ubers-autonomous-cars-have-driven-1-million-miles-1513305489-f9a7e397-09c5-40f9-b3f0-ca05da06cda7.html https://www.axios.com/ubers-autonomous-cars-have-driven-1-mi... There's an argument to be made that autonomous vehicles are better for society and safety. But it sure isn't statistical.
- Mononokay 9y ago
  They went out of their way to avoid regulation and after, ran over a person in a bike lane. I was referring more towards their negligent design than self-driving cars themselves, but if we're going off of that: In 2015 there were 5,376 pedestrian deaths by a vehicle. There were, at the time, an estimated 263.6 million vehicles registered. There has been a death so far this year off of a self-driving vehicle, and there are how many on the road at the moment? If you're going by deaths-per-vehicle, autonomous is losing. I don't dislike all autonomous vehicles, but Uber is showing a lack of care for all but basic safety measures, that seemingly all of their competitors have gotten down thusfar, and alongside of that they're avoiding regulation quite heavily.
mojomark 9y ago
This is making Kitty Hawk look a lot more attractive.

I can't imagine how bad it looks for Non Autonomous cars considering the 100's of pedestrians that are killed everyday in the USA.

Jackim 9y ago
100s a day is a little off, the figure is around 11 per day. Not saying that's great, though.
Anechoic 9y ago
considering the 100's of pedestrians that are killed everyday in the USA According to the CDC, 5,376 pedestrians were killed in car accidents in 2015. According to the WashPo, 28,642 pedestrians were killed in car accidents from 2010-2015. That gives a rate of 13-15 pedestrians killed per day in the USA. Too much, yes, but not hundreds of pedestrians killed everyday. https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/pedestrian_safety/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/pedestrian_safety/ind... https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/pedestrian-deaths-soar-in-the-uneven-battles-with-cars/2017/03/29/9984cc56-141c-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/ped...
danso 9y ago
"100's of pedestrians"? 2017 was a record high for pedestrian fatalities, at ~6,000: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/28/589453431/pedestrian-fatalities-remain-at-25-year-high-for-second-year-in-a-row https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/28/589453431... The urban fatality rate of all fatalities is 1 per 100 million miles traveled: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/810625 https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/... As of September 2017, all of Uber's autonomous cars have driven a total of 1 million miles over a period of 2.5 years: https://www.axios.com/ubers-autonomous-cars-have-driven-1-million-miles-1513305489-f9a7e397-09c5-40f9-b3f0-ca05da06cda7.html https://www.axios.com/ubers-autonomous-cars-have-driven-1-mi... There's an argument to be made that autonomous vehicles are better for society and safety. But it sure isn't statistical.
Mononokay 9y ago
They went out of their way to avoid regulation and after, ran over a person in a bike lane. I was referring more towards their negligent design than self-driving cars themselves, but if we're going off of that: In 2015 there were 5,376 pedestrian deaths by a vehicle. There were, at the time, an estimated 263.6 million vehicles registered. There has been a death so far this year off of a self-driving vehicle, and there are how many on the road at the moment? If you're going by deaths-per-vehicle, autonomous is losing. I don't dislike all autonomous vehicles, but Uber is showing a lack of care for all but basic safety measures, that seemingly all of their competitors have gotten down thusfar, and alongside of that they're avoiding regulation quite heavily.

mojomark 9y ago

This is making Kitty Hawk look a lot more attractive.