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Actually there was a metric of accident per distance drived. It was often pull out by Tesla before their first fatal accident last year (IA didn’t saw rear of t

Actually there was a metric of accident per distance drived. It was often pull out by Tesla before their first fatal accident last year (IA didn’t saw rear of truck because of sun or smthg like that). This metric was often decried because it had poor statistical significance. It would however be nice to update this metric according to this death. Maybe now this metric would indicate that IA are more dangerous than human, will be interesting if the perception of this flawed metric will evolve in reaction...

kerkeslager 9y ago
> Actually there was a metric of accident per distance drived. It was often pull out by Tesla before their first fatal accident last year (IA didn’t saw rear of truck because of sun or smthg like that). I'm curious to see that, do you have a link? That would actually be a valid comparison.
- Twisell 9y ago
  I’m on my phone so maybe I haven’t found the most relevants links, but I found the followings. This is Elon musk bragging before the first autopilot accident : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-teslas-autopilot-makes-accidents-50pc-less-likely/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-... This is a counterpoint with some fact: http://safer-america.com/safe-self-driving-cars/ http://safer-america.com/safe-self-driving-cars/ And concerning the crash, last update seemed to point driver’s fault... with autopilot... don’t know if final ruling is already out: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/20/the-driver-who-died-in-a-tesla-crash-using-autopilot-ignored-7-safety-warnings/?utm_term=.b642ac5f665f https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/20...
  - kerkeslager 9y ago
    Neat, thanks for the data.
  - rohit2412 9y ago
    According to that "update", Tesla Autopilot can never be at fault right? Because the driver is supposed to be in charge. So, even if Tesla rams full speed into a semi, the driver is at fault!
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      Yes, that's how Level 2 systems (like Tesla Autopilot) work.

kerkeslager 9y ago

> Actually there was a metric of accident per distance drived. It was often pull out by Tesla before their first fatal accident last year (IA didn’t saw rear of truck because of sun or smthg like that). I'm curious to see that, do you have a link? That would actually be a valid comparison.

Twisell 9y ago
I’m on my phone so maybe I haven’t found the most relevants links, but I found the followings. This is Elon musk bragging before the first autopilot accident : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-teslas-autopilot-makes-accidents-50pc-less-likely/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-... This is a counterpoint with some fact: http://safer-america.com/safe-self-driving-cars/ http://safer-america.com/safe-self-driving-cars/ And concerning the crash, last update seemed to point driver’s fault... with autopilot... don’t know if final ruling is already out: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/20/the-driver-who-died-in-a-tesla-crash-using-autopilot-ignored-7-safety-warnings/?utm_term=.b642ac5f665f https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/06/20...
- kerkeslager 9y ago
  Neat, thanks for the data.
- rohit2412 9y ago
  According to that "update", Tesla Autopilot can never be at fault right? Because the driver is supposed to be in charge. So, even if Tesla rams full speed into a semi, the driver is at fault!
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    Yes, that's how Level 2 systems (like Tesla Autopilot) work.