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Oh and w3schools.com needs to go below MDN because it's less informative. Even today I wanted to read about transform-origin and landed on w3schools [0], where
by vilius 9y ago
Oh and w3schools.com needs to go below MDN because it's less informative.
Even today I wanted to read about transform-origin and landed on w3schools [0], where MDN article [1] is clearly superior.
[0] https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_transform-origin.asp https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_transform-origin.as...
[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/transform-origin https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/transform-o...
- aduitsis 9y agoPerhaps, but at least they don't require you to signup just to view a stupid image.
- vbezhenar 9y agoDoes Google manually adjust weights? While I agree with you, I always supposed that Google weights websites according to their own algorithms, not because some moderator thinks that it's less informative. If w3schools is higher, probably there are technical reasons, for example more users prefer it (may be content is easier to understand).
- encoderer 9y agoThey apply “manual actions” all the time.
- Donzo 9y agoSure, so they need to improve the algorithms in this way so they produce the desired results. In other words, algorithmically driven manual actions.
- stordoff 9y ago> The Manual Actions report lists instances where a human reviewer has determined that pages on your site are not compliant with Google's webmaster quality guidelines. Google's algorithms can detect the vast majority of spam and demote it automatically; for the rest, we use human reviewers to manually review pages and flag them if they violate the guidelines. Flagged sites can be demoted or even removed entirely from Google search results. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604824?hl=en https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604824?hl=en Specifically mentioned on that page is "Redirecting users away from the image on the site when the user clicks "view image" in Google search results" as an example of "image cloaking behavior".
- funkaster 9y agoWhen searching for things like that, I usually prefix my search with MDN, or even better, just use ddg for technical searches. These days, ddg is getting pretty good at showing results of typical coding/technical questions. If my search is for a very fringe/specific/new topic, I fall back to google (which you can from ddg with the `!g` prefix)
- chrfrasco 9y agoI use the personal blocklist extension (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...) just to block w3schools.
- zmix 9y agoExactly the same here!
- jake-low 9y agoBack when I was writing a lot of C++ professionally I felt the same way about cplusplus.com vs. the (IMO much superior) cppreference.com. I'd love to be able to teach my search engine simple rules like "if a Wikipedia article matches my search, show it first" or "never show results from linkedin".
- stagbeetle 9y agoWhile we're in the same vein, Google should remove the dumbed-down content altogether for anyone flagged as a "developer" by their algos, and replace it with man pages and source docs. MDN is a step up, but I usually skip past it, because the actual specification papers are most always better (except for ATOM and OpenLayers!).
- colanderman 9y agoGenerally I prefer specifications too, but ever since the WHATWG-W3C split, it's become a choice between stuff that isn't yet implemented (WHATWG), and stuff that never was implemented (W3C). At least MDN documents accurately what one major browser supports, and includes compatibility tables for others.
- tambourine_man 9y agoI know it’s not a popular opinion, but I actually like W3schools. Most of their infamous errors are gone and they are usually more “to the point” than Mozilla docs, which are a sometimes too prolific and not as clear.
- koboll 9y agoIt's "to the point" in the sense of being a more concise basic introduction. But MDN hits the right balance of being comprehensive yet accessible in a way nothing else does. Plus W3Schools' very name is an SEO hack, so their Google rank is built upon fundamental dishonesty.
- kowdermeister 9y agoThe biggest problem with that site is that it's sometimes good. Sometimes. I never know that before I click if the required info is there or not or it's good enough or still relevant. With MDN my expectations are high but they are always matched. That's why I installed the W3Schools removal chrome extension :)
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- admax88q 9y agoAll my web platforms searches are now "mdn <web-thing>" cause w3schools is never informative enough for me.
- gkya 9y agoThe examples w3schools have are useful, and MDN has less of them. But maybe that's my subjective experience. Still, I've made lots of use from both of them, and looking past the first hit should not be that difficult, especially for us programmers. Edit: funny that people downvote this.
- duxup 9y agoAs a noob I actually prefer w3school's page to start ... and then I'd read MDN. Maybe the noob clicking behavior is influencing the ranking?
- exodust 9y agoBoth are good and I use both. There's something about the layout of w3schools I find nicer and quicker to read. Sometimes I spend about 10 seconds on the site and I'm done. That's the mark of a good UI when you're in and out in 10 seconds with the info you need.