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1. You can't press play again, it's just faded out. 2. What other playlist? I'm in the iTunes store. I haven't given any indication that I want to or even coul

by Jkeg 16y ago

1. You can't press play again, it's just faded out. 2. What other playlist? I'm in the iTunes store. I haven't given any indication that I want to or even could specify another playlist to play. 2. That's exactly how it should work anyway. If I want to change the playlist, that's a different kind of event altogether from just pausing. Having one UI element try and control both is confusing. In this case, a dedicated stop button would actually be useful, as that could distinguish between pausing the current playlist and stopping it altogether. But removing relevant pause functionality just because you're in a different program section? Pointless.

thought_alarm 16y ago
> You can't press play again, it's just faded out. Right, because there's nothing to play. If you preview a song in the store then the Play button becomes active. The point is that the Play button does only control one thing: the playlist or screen that you are currently viewing. It works the same whether you're switching between two playlists, or between a playlist and the store. How else would you have it work?
Jkeg 16y ago
> Right, because there's nothing to play. There's nothing there to play because "pause" irrationally became "stop" for no apparent reason (remember there's no playlist in sight), and the user accidentally pressed it. There's no reason for it to be this way. Why shouldn't the play button apply to songs, especially when it was played individually and not as a playlist? Seems like the type of thing a music player should do.
- thought_alarm 16y ago
  The Previous, Play, and Next buttons apply to the screen you are currently viewing. They work just the same in the store as they do on any other iTunes screen.
  - Jkeg 16y ago
    The way they work is exactly the problem. Considering there's a lot you can do in iTunes, it makes more sense to have the control buttons apply to items independent of where you're browsing, as for example, Windows Media Player. The current behavior is confusing and pointless.
    - thought_alarm 16y ago
      You are forgetting these iTunes use cases: - Select a track and push Play. - Select an album and push Play. - Select a playlist and push Play. - Select iTunes DJ and push Play. These are fundamental to iTunes. It is neither confusing nor pointless.
    - Jkeg 16y ago
      >You are forgetting these iTunes use cases: None of those are contradictory to the idea of control consistency throughout iTunes, why would they be? In fact, deliberately selecting something and choosing specifically what to do with it fits perfectly with the "Have the control buttons control items you select or can only be one other possible item" method. If the behavior isn't confusing, then why does it stop the track, but not let you restart it, even though there's nothing else to control? That is perfectly described as pointless and confusing.
      - thought_alarm 16y ago
        > None of those are contradictory to the idea of control consistency throughout iTunes Of course not. That's how iTunes already works, and iTunes is already consistent. However, those things are contrary to your suggestion: "it makes more sense to have the control buttons apply to items independent of where you're browsing". Look, it's clear you haven't really thought things through. You just need to learn how iTunes works. (You also need to learn how to reply to the correct comment) It's very easy: The playback controls "always" apply to the playlist you are viewing. If you want to get back to the currently-playing playlist, click the little back-arrow in the right-hand side of the main display. You can't get more consistent than that. You can also click the "Now Playing" window and that will also give you controls for the current playlist. It's very easy.

by Jkeg 16y ago

thought_alarm 16y ago

> You can't press play again, it's just faded out. Right, because there's nothing to play. If you preview a song in the store then the Play button becomes active. The point is that the Play button does only control one thing: the playlist or screen that you are currently viewing. It works the same whether you're switching between two playlists, or between a playlist and the store. How else would you have it work?

Jkeg 16y ago

> Right, because there's nothing to play. There's nothing there to play because "pause" irrationally became "stop" for no apparent reason (remember there's no playlist in sight), and the user accidentally pressed it. There's no reason for it to be this way. Why shouldn't the play button apply to songs, especially when it was played individually and not as a playlist? Seems like the type of thing a music player should do.

thought_alarm 16y ago
The Previous, Play, and Next buttons apply to the screen you are currently viewing. They work just the same in the store as they do on any other iTunes screen.
- Jkeg 16y ago
  The way they work is exactly the problem. Considering there's a lot you can do in iTunes, it makes more sense to have the control buttons apply to items independent of where you're browsing, as for example, Windows Media Player. The current behavior is confusing and pointless.
  - thought_alarm 16y ago
    You are forgetting these iTunes use cases: - Select a track and push Play. - Select an album and push Play. - Select a playlist and push Play. - Select iTunes DJ and push Play. These are fundamental to iTunes. It is neither confusing nor pointless.
  - Jkeg 16y ago
    >You are forgetting these iTunes use cases: None of those are contradictory to the idea of control consistency throughout iTunes, why would they be? In fact, deliberately selecting something and choosing specifically what to do with it fits perfectly with the "Have the control buttons control items you select or can only be one other possible item" method. If the behavior isn't confusing, then why does it stop the track, but not let you restart it, even though there's nothing else to control? That is perfectly described as pointless and confusing.
    - thought_alarm 16y ago
      > None of those are contradictory to the idea of control consistency throughout iTunes Of course not. That's how iTunes already works, and iTunes is already consistent. However, those things are contrary to your suggestion: "it makes more sense to have the control buttons apply to items independent of where you're browsing". Look, it's clear you haven't really thought things through. You just need to learn how iTunes works. (You also need to learn how to reply to the correct comment) It's very easy: The playback controls "always" apply to the playlist you are viewing. If you want to get back to the currently-playing playlist, click the little back-arrow in the right-hand side of the main display. You can't get more consistent than that. You can also click the "Now Playing" window and that will also give you controls for the current playlist. It's very easy.