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I don't see the problem here. The most popular sites are showing up in search results. Pinterest is a popular site. It seems like that's the way search engines

I don't see the problem here. The most popular sites are showing up in search results. Pinterest is a popular site. It seems like that's the way search engines are supposed to work. If you don't like the fact that Pinterest is a popular site, fair enough -- but that's a personal opinion, and it's not a good enough reason for Google or any other search engine to suppress Pinterest images in search results.

bambax 9y ago
> I don't see the problem ... because you didn't read the description of the problem on the Reddit post.
- twblalock 9y ago
  I read it. I still don't see the problem. A popular site ranks highly in search results.
  - minimaxir 9y ago
    "Everyone of these results requires a signup and log into Pinterest to be able to see it" is a problem.
    - twblalock 9y ago
      Why? The image is visible in the search results. You search for images, you see images. What requires a signup is the Pinterest-specific content associated with the image.
      - minimaxir 9y ago
        [EDIT: nvm]
        twblalock 9y ago
        > Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO. They clutter the images results and do not allow users to obtain what they search for. Sounds like they are to me. It's not explicitly stated either way, but when people talk about "image results" it seems safe to assume they are taking about Google Image Search.
        DanBC 9y ago
        When I do a Google Image search, and click the thumbnail which shows me the Google image card, and I click the "visit" link I expect to be taken to a page with the image on it. With Pinterest results this sometimes happens: https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG But not always: https://imgur.com/a/RrjJG https://imgur.com/a/RrjJG Notice how in the second link Pinterest is asking me to log in, even though I am clearly already logged in.
    - DanBC 9y ago
      It's a bit more than that. (Or all newspapers behind a paywall would be blocked). The problem is that, even with a logged in Pinterest account, clicking on a Google image search result doesn't take you to the image. Sometimes the image will be on the page, but not always. Sometimes have to perform another search on Pinterest to find the item. Here's an example where the image is below the fold. There are plenty where the image can't be found without a search on Pinterest. https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG I quite like the idea of Pinterest but the hyper-aggressive signup stuff (especially for mobile users) is really off-putting.
      - minimaxir 9y ago
        > (Or all newspapers behind a paywall would be blocked). I was under the impression that the current X-Articles-Free implementation of newspaper paywalls everywhere was a Google-friendly compromise.
  - UncleMeat 9y ago
    The goal of google image search is to let you find images you want, not to rank websites by popularity. Pinterest makes it impossible to click through to the image.
XJOKOLAT 9y ago
Man, fuck you.
grepthisab 9y ago
May I ask if you're affiliated with Pinterest in any way? I'm reading your responses and while I have a very open mind, I feel like you're really handwaving the obvious (to me and many others) problems Pinterest causes and defending them very strongly. This of course doesn't mean you're affiliated, I'm just curious. I am also good friends with one of the original Pinterest engs and that person defends it in the same, almost irrational, way, but I probably would too if my stock value depended on Pinterest being ingrained into Google search results.
- twblalock 9y ago
  I have no affiliation with them. I don't like Pinterest more than anyone else here. I just don't see how Google is doing anything wrong. By the way, I'm not affiliated with Google either. I shouldn't have to say that.
northwest65 9y ago
Sure, if there was a single return. However when I added Pinterest to my personal block list, I had to add: pinterest.com, .ie, .nz, .uk, .au, etc etc you get the idea. It was actually that cancerous link spam behaviour that made me block them in the first place, as it diluted the quality of my Google results enough to force me into taking action. I really feel bad for people who aren't savvy enough to know that blocking things like bad search result or advertisments is an option.
stordoff 9y ago
> The most popular sites are showing up in search results. Pinterest is a popular site. It seems like that's the way search engines are supposed to work. I disagree. Search engines are supposed to find _useful_ sites. Every time I have come across a Pinterest link, I have either been presented with the image devoid of context or (much more commonly) asked to log in and just been presented with a generic list of Pinterest images. That isn't useful (and in fact actively frustrates what I'm trying to do). Edit: typo fix.
bornonline1 9y ago
No because of i Google 'dragon ball' , Pinterest spans "top 40 dragon ball images" and not just one clickbait, but 20. My search is filled with clickbait. If i press the link, the images are behind the login wall. Also all of their images are stolen from other websites. So it becomes impossible to find the source when all you see is clickbait.

bambax 9y ago

> I don't see the problem ... because you didn't read the description of the problem on the Reddit post.

twblalock 9y ago
I read it. I still don't see the problem. A popular site ranks highly in search results.
- minimaxir 9y ago
  "Everyone of these results requires a signup and log into Pinterest to be able to see it" is a problem.
  - twblalock 9y ago
    Why? The image is visible in the search results. You search for images, you see images. What requires a signup is the Pinterest-specific content associated with the image.
    - minimaxir 9y ago
      [EDIT: nvm]
      - twblalock 9y ago
        > Pinterest needs to be removed from Google IMO. They clutter the images results and do not allow users to obtain what they search for. Sounds like they are to me. It's not explicitly stated either way, but when people talk about "image results" it seems safe to assume they are taking about Google Image Search.
        DanBC 9y ago
        When I do a Google Image search, and click the thumbnail which shows me the Google image card, and I click the "visit" link I expect to be taken to a page with the image on it. With Pinterest results this sometimes happens: https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG But not always: https://imgur.com/a/RrjJG https://imgur.com/a/RrjJG Notice how in the second link Pinterest is asking me to log in, even though I am clearly already logged in.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    It's a bit more than that. (Or all newspapers behind a paywall would be blocked). The problem is that, even with a logged in Pinterest account, clicking on a Google image search result doesn't take you to the image. Sometimes the image will be on the page, but not always. Sometimes have to perform another search on Pinterest to find the item. Here's an example where the image is below the fold. There are plenty where the image can't be found without a search on Pinterest. https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG https://imgur.com/a/ktyNG I quite like the idea of Pinterest but the hyper-aggressive signup stuff (especially for mobile users) is really off-putting.
    - minimaxir 9y ago
      > (Or all newspapers behind a paywall would be blocked). I was under the impression that the current X-Articles-Free implementation of newspaper paywalls everywhere was a Google-friendly compromise.
- UncleMeat 9y ago
  The goal of google image search is to let you find images you want, not to rank websites by popularity. Pinterest makes it impossible to click through to the image.

XJOKOLAT 9y ago

Man, fuck you.

grepthisab 9y ago

May I ask if you're affiliated with Pinterest in any way? I'm reading your responses and while I have a very open mind, I feel like you're really handwaving the obvious (to me and many others) problems Pinterest causes and defending them very strongly. This of course doesn't mean you're affiliated, I'm just curious. I am also good friends with one of the original Pinterest engs and that person defends it in the same, almost irrational, way, but I probably would too if my stock value depended on Pinterest being ingrained into Google search results.

twblalock 9y ago
I have no affiliation with them. I don't like Pinterest more than anyone else here. I just don't see how Google is doing anything wrong. By the way, I'm not affiliated with Google either. I shouldn't have to say that.

northwest65 9y ago

Sure, if there was a single return. However when I added Pinterest to my personal block list, I had to add: pinterest.com, .ie, .nz, .uk, .au, etc etc you get the idea. It was actually that cancerous link spam behaviour that made me block them in the first place, as it diluted the quality of my Google results enough to force me into taking action. I really feel bad for people who aren't savvy enough to know that blocking things like bad search result or advertisments is an option.

stordoff 9y ago

> The most popular sites are showing up in search results. Pinterest is a popular site. It seems like that's the way search engines are supposed to work. I disagree. Search engines are supposed to find _useful_ sites. Every time I have come across a Pinterest link, I have either been presented with the image devoid of context or (much more commonly) asked to log in and just been presented with a generic list of Pinterest images. That isn't useful (and in fact actively frustrates what I'm trying to do). Edit: typo fix.

bornonline1 9y ago

No because of i Google 'dragon ball' , Pinterest spans "top 40 dragon ball images" and not just one clickbait, but 20. My search is filled with clickbait. If i press the link, the images are behind the login wall. Also all of their images are stolen from other websites. So it becomes impossible to find the source when all you see is clickbait.