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Where do you find them? There aren't that many people with experience, in any field, and they are usually not in the right location. Also, the ones with a job

Where do you find them? There aren't that many people with experience, in any field, and they are usually not in the right location. Also, the ones with a job in a decent company will not leave to a worse company.

kjksf 9y ago
Tesla has no problem hiring industry veterans. If you spend a bit of time on Linkedin you'll find that many Tesla executives have spent 5-10 years at other car manufacterers. To give you a start: a guy in charge Tesla semi spent 8 years at Daimler (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromeguillen/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromeguillen/) A guy in charge in Tesla's Fremont factory (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbert-passin-74a36117/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbert-passin-74a36117/) spent 17 years at Renault, Mack Trucks, Volvo and Toyota. Given how rapidly is Tesla's stock rising I'm sure they are pretty attractive employer especially compared to the likes of convicted criminal organizations like Volkswagen.
- user5994461 9y ago
  Executives are the easiest people to identify and to hire. You select them from your major competitors and you throw a bunch of money at them. It's easier done than said. Then you're gonna need hundreds of people to design and manufacture the cars, in specific locations. These positions are a lot harder to fill. A general is useless without his army. An executive is useless without employees.
  - simion314 9y ago
    Say you need some air filters for a new Tesla model, you do not need to make them inside Tesla, usually you make some requirements then show them to a few companies that make air filters, this companies will respond with a design and with an offer and you chose the company you want to make the air filters for you. So you could source most of the parts that are not Tesla specific, then the problem is managing the efficient transport of this parts, storing them, and the hard problem of assembling them, for this problems you will have to hire people with experience to setup this processes, build the assembly lines, handle QA, unfortunately for Tesla they can't be cheep with the experienced workers(even here in Romania experienced engineers are expensive and if you do not pay them enough they leave because they get offers all the time from the competitors)
- oblio 9y ago
  Criminal organization? Just like Microsoft, Ford, Google, Apple, Goldman Sachs and most Fortune 500 companies? Also, Volkwagen is the #1 car company in the world, I think they’ll manage to hire top execs with their €11 billion profit. I don’t like Volkswagen that much, but your perspective is kind of skewed by the Musk Distortion Field, in my opinion :)
simion314 9y ago
You pay enough to get them, it would be more expensive to hire people without experience.
icegreentea2 9y ago
Tesla (like SpaceX) provides unique incentives to experienced people in their relevant fields. Here's an opportunity to greenfield not just a product, but an entire system and process! In these fields dominated by large incumbent companies with lots of process, history, and yes, cruft in place, it can be hard to fulfill the itch of 'doing it from scratch, and doing it right'. By the time the Model 3 preplanning should have been in place, it was obvious enough that Tesla is short term here to stay. You're talking about probably 2 years of job security. I feel like thats enough for many of the less risk adverse (who will probably those who are itching for greenfield) employees to consider leaving.
- user5994461 9y ago
  I am sorry but "2 years of job security" is a joke. That's the sort of shit that's sold by web companies in the valley. Some of the guys I knew who are working as engineers in electronics, mechanical, software have more than a decade in the same company. That's in Europe and outside of the major tech hubs. They have the unions, unheard of in tech companies, and the accrued benefits with age. They won't move to an unknown company just to disrupt some processes, but it doesn't matter because Tesla doesn't exist on this continent anyway.
  - icegreentea2 9y ago
    Oh, I more or less agree with you. Like 2 years is basically useless, especially if the person has a family to consider. I don't think that 2 years is enough to entice many people in the field, but I feel like it's enough to entice enough.
    - user5994461 9y ago
      Well, it's the norm for a growing company to do with not enough employees, not enough experience and not enough resources. We can both agree on that. I'm not sure where Tesla is recruiting but I don't think they have much footprint even in the USA. If so, they are certainly cut from the vast majority of the talent pool that compose their worldwide competitors.

kjksf 9y ago

Tesla has no problem hiring industry veterans. If you spend a bit of time on Linkedin you'll find that many Tesla executives have spent 5-10 years at other car manufacterers. To give you a start: a guy in charge Tesla semi spent 8 years at Daimler (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromeguillen/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromeguillen/) A guy in charge in Tesla's Fremont factory (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbert-passin-74a36117/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbert-passin-74a36117/) spent 17 years at Renault, Mack Trucks, Volvo and Toyota. Given how rapidly is Tesla's stock rising I'm sure they are pretty attractive employer especially compared to the likes of convicted criminal organizations like Volkswagen.

user5994461 9y ago
Executives are the easiest people to identify and to hire. You select them from your major competitors and you throw a bunch of money at them. It's easier done than said. Then you're gonna need hundreds of people to design and manufacture the cars, in specific locations. These positions are a lot harder to fill. A general is useless without his army. An executive is useless without employees.
- simion314 9y ago
  Say you need some air filters for a new Tesla model, you do not need to make them inside Tesla, usually you make some requirements then show them to a few companies that make air filters, this companies will respond with a design and with an offer and you chose the company you want to make the air filters for you. So you could source most of the parts that are not Tesla specific, then the problem is managing the efficient transport of this parts, storing them, and the hard problem of assembling them, for this problems you will have to hire people with experience to setup this processes, build the assembly lines, handle QA, unfortunately for Tesla they can't be cheep with the experienced workers(even here in Romania experienced engineers are expensive and if you do not pay them enough they leave because they get offers all the time from the competitors)
oblio 9y ago
Criminal organization? Just like Microsoft, Ford, Google, Apple, Goldman Sachs and most Fortune 500 companies? Also, Volkwagen is the #1 car company in the world, I think they’ll manage to hire top execs with their €11 billion profit. I don’t like Volkswagen that much, but your perspective is kind of skewed by the Musk Distortion Field, in my opinion :)

simion314 9y ago

You pay enough to get them, it would be more expensive to hire people without experience.

icegreentea2 9y ago

Tesla (like SpaceX) provides unique incentives to experienced people in their relevant fields. Here's an opportunity to greenfield not just a product, but an entire system and process! In these fields dominated by large incumbent companies with lots of process, history, and yes, cruft in place, it can be hard to fulfill the itch of 'doing it from scratch, and doing it right'. By the time the Model 3 preplanning should have been in place, it was obvious enough that Tesla is short term here to stay. You're talking about probably 2 years of job security. I feel like thats enough for many of the less risk adverse (who will probably those who are itching for greenfield) employees to consider leaving.

user5994461 9y ago
I am sorry but "2 years of job security" is a joke. That's the sort of shit that's sold by web companies in the valley. Some of the guys I knew who are working as engineers in electronics, mechanical, software have more than a decade in the same company. That's in Europe and outside of the major tech hubs. They have the unions, unheard of in tech companies, and the accrued benefits with age. They won't move to an unknown company just to disrupt some processes, but it doesn't matter because Tesla doesn't exist on this continent anyway.
- icegreentea2 9y ago
  Oh, I more or less agree with you. Like 2 years is basically useless, especially if the person has a family to consider. I don't think that 2 years is enough to entice many people in the field, but I feel like it's enough to entice enough.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    Well, it's the norm for a growing company to do with not enough employees, not enough experience and not enough resources. We can both agree on that. I'm not sure where Tesla is recruiting but I don't think they have much footprint even in the USA. If so, they are certainly cut from the vast majority of the talent pool that compose their worldwide competitors.