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That's a pretty high social security rate. I am in a similar position to OP, but in Spain. My overall tax burden (including social security) is around 30% which

That's a pretty high social security rate. I am in a similar position to OP, but in Spain. My overall tax burden (including social security) is around 30% which is not bad at all. So, if you're flexible and just looking for something new, I definitely recommend looking at Spain.

sergiosgc 9y ago
The equivalent social security rate in spain is 29.8%: http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Trabajadores/CotizacionRecaudaci10777/Basesytiposdecotiza36537/index.htm#36550 http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Trabajadores/CotizacionR... Spain does the same thing as Portugal, for company workers, where they "hide" part of the social security payment from payment receipts. Companies pay 23.6% and the worker 4.7%. Only the latter appears in the salary receipt, the other is a company expense.
- mcjiggerlog 9y ago
  The above was for being self employed
  - sergiosgc 9y ago
    As was my quote of 29.8% (trabajadores autónomos). I posted the link for this exact section.
    - mcjiggerlog 9y ago
      I'm not going to claim to understand everything on that page (spanish taxes are complicated!), but nearly all autónomos pay the minimal amount payable, which is 275 euros/month. You can contribute more if you want to get more state pension, don't I don't believe many do. Edit - it's 29.3% of the base mínima de autónomos - which is about 920 euros a month. Now, I honestly have no idea what that actually means, but it means you pay about 270 euros regardless of what you earn (it's a stupid system that benefits the well-off).
mdekkers 9y ago
I definitely recommend looking at Spain I'm in Catalonia, Spain (for a few more weeks) and do not recommend. I don't know what you are making, but I am also an Autonomo, and I'm being royally fucked on social insurance and taxes. My tax and SI bill for this year will be around 60%, and fuck that. And yes, I have tried different accountants. Essentially, the tax department decided that a lot of my expenses are not allowable, and because I have bank accounts in other EU countries as well as Spain, they decided that I am "probably hiding something" (their words). I can go and spend a lot of money on lawyers, or I can just pack up and leave. Combined with the bullshit Catalan independence movement and accompanying social and economic instability, generally unfriendly Catalans, terrible quality of food (essentially salt, with a hint of whatever it claims to be on the package), and the "we will bill you whatever the fuck we want, good luck clawing your money back" utilities (literally opened a 400 EUR bill from the phone company 10 minutes ago), I am totally done with this place. I have lived in many countries, and all places have challenges and ups and downs. This place, however, is the pits.
- ejanus 9y ago
  Head to Rwanda.

sergiosgc 9y ago

The equivalent social security rate in spain is 29.8%: http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Trabajadores/CotizacionRecaudaci10777/Basesytiposdecotiza36537/index.htm#36550 http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Trabajadores/CotizacionR... Spain does the same thing as Portugal, for company workers, where they "hide" part of the social security payment from payment receipts. Companies pay 23.6% and the worker 4.7%. Only the latter appears in the salary receipt, the other is a company expense.

mcjiggerlog 9y ago
The above was for being self employed
- sergiosgc 9y ago
  As was my quote of 29.8% (trabajadores autónomos). I posted the link for this exact section.
  - mcjiggerlog 9y ago
    I'm not going to claim to understand everything on that page (spanish taxes are complicated!), but nearly all autónomos pay the minimal amount payable, which is 275 euros/month. You can contribute more if you want to get more state pension, don't I don't believe many do. Edit - it's 29.3% of the base mínima de autónomos - which is about 920 euros a month. Now, I honestly have no idea what that actually means, but it means you pay about 270 euros regardless of what you earn (it's a stupid system that benefits the well-off).

mdekkers 9y ago

I definitely recommend looking at Spain I'm in Catalonia, Spain (for a few more weeks) and do not recommend. I don't know what you are making, but I am also an Autonomo, and I'm being royally fucked on social insurance and taxes. My tax and SI bill for this year will be around 60%, and fuck that. And yes, I have tried different accountants. Essentially, the tax department decided that a lot of my expenses are not allowable, and because I have bank accounts in other EU countries as well as Spain, they decided that I am "probably hiding something" (their words). I can go and spend a lot of money on lawyers, or I can just pack up and leave. Combined with the bullshit Catalan independence movement and accompanying social and economic instability, generally unfriendly Catalans, terrible quality of food (essentially salt, with a hint of whatever it claims to be on the package), and the "we will bill you whatever the fuck we want, good luck clawing your money back" utilities (literally opened a 400 EUR bill from the phone company 10 minutes ago), I am totally done with this place. I have lived in many countries, and all places have challenges and ups and downs. This place, however, is the pits.

ejanus 9y ago
Head to Rwanda.