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> usurers In case anyone missed it, this is an anti-Semitic slur.

by thinkcontext 9y ago

friendly_chap 9y ago
It is not, but I appreciate your self confidence. I guess I'm secretly a self hating jew.
- glibgil 9y ago
  You are not Jewish
  - friendly_chap 9y ago
    Many of my ancestors are. Though not in terms of religion. I do not follow any religion apart from Buddhism which I don't consider a religion.
- deleted 9y ago
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braderhart 9y ago
Where does he say anything against Jewish people? Claiming his comment is anti-semetic is anti-semtic.
braderhart 9y ago
Why did he get flagged? He didn't say anything worth being flagged over. He said that people in the US are in debt, and then this person assumed that he meant to Jewish people and called him anti-semetic, and then his comment was immediately censored.
ryanlol 9y ago
That seems like a very uncharitable interpretation, I went through many pages of google results for that term and couldn't find anything in regards to anti-Semitic connotations. Perhaps we should assume that friendly_chap is telling the truth when he says he's referring to the bankers, and not the jews?
- braderhart 9y ago
  Yes... and maybe discussions shouldn't be immediately disrupted and censored as soon as someone accuses another as being anti-semite.
cabaalis 9y ago
I don't know how on here to read a flagged comment, so I don't know the context in which this was used, but I thought "usury" was a quite common term. There are usury laws in states against high-interest loans. I think we should be mindful against creating slurs where they don't exists, as the word itself is just a word that refers to something very real. Again, I don't know how to see the context.
- ryanlol 9y ago
  >I don't know how on here to read a flagged comment Go to https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cabaalis https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cabaalis and turn "showdead" to "yes". While you're not missing much, the context doesn't seem very damning.
  - srean 9y ago
    I cannot imagine why you would get downvoted for what you said. Seems some politically motivated down-vote fest going on now. Did not expect things to be this ugly on HN. I am upvoting your's to compensate and flagging mine, with the hope of drawing Dang's attention. Edit: Apparently I cannot flag mine.
    - DanBC 9y ago
      Why don't you just flag the anti-semitism?
      - srean 9y ago
        To be honest that was way too confusing for me to figure out. I am quite a few continents away. As I said, I don't have much of the cultural context. Apparently 'usury' is anti-Semitic and this was the first time I have heard such a claim. Something tells me that I should not bother finding out why it is or isn't.
        DanBC 9y ago
        It's not just use of the word "usury". It's the combination of the money lenders theme (or they run the banking system) with they run the media and they're taking over the world.
srean 9y ago
I don't have the cultural context, so help me grasp why would this word be anti-Semitic, as far as I know it has a perfectly legit meaning.

> usurers In case anyone missed it, this is an anti-Semitic slur.

friendly_chap 9y ago

It is not, but I appreciate your self confidence. I guess I'm secretly a self hating jew.

glibgil 9y ago
You are not Jewish
- friendly_chap 9y ago
  Many of my ancestors are. Though not in terms of religion. I do not follow any religion apart from Buddhism which I don't consider a religion.
deleted 9y ago
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braderhart 9y ago

Where does he say anything against Jewish people? Claiming his comment is anti-semetic is anti-semtic.

braderhart 9y ago

Why did he get flagged? He didn't say anything worth being flagged over. He said that people in the US are in debt, and then this person assumed that he meant to Jewish people and called him anti-semetic, and then his comment was immediately censored.

ryanlol 9y ago

That seems like a very uncharitable interpretation, I went through many pages of google results for that term and couldn't find anything in regards to anti-Semitic connotations. Perhaps we should assume that friendly_chap is telling the truth when he says he's referring to the bankers, and not the jews?

braderhart 9y ago
Yes... and maybe discussions shouldn't be immediately disrupted and censored as soon as someone accuses another as being anti-semite.

cabaalis 9y ago

I don't know how on here to read a flagged comment, so I don't know the context in which this was used, but I thought "usury" was a quite common term. There are usury laws in states against high-interest loans. I think we should be mindful against creating slurs where they don't exists, as the word itself is just a word that refers to something very real. Again, I don't know how to see the context.

ryanlol 9y ago
>I don't know how on here to read a flagged comment Go to https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cabaalis https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cabaalis and turn "showdead" to "yes". While you're not missing much, the context doesn't seem very damning.
- srean 9y ago
  I cannot imagine why you would get downvoted for what you said. Seems some politically motivated down-vote fest going on now. Did not expect things to be this ugly on HN. I am upvoting your's to compensate and flagging mine, with the hope of drawing Dang's attention. Edit: Apparently I cannot flag mine.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    Why don't you just flag the anti-semitism?
    - srean 9y ago
      To be honest that was way too confusing for me to figure out. I am quite a few continents away. As I said, I don't have much of the cultural context. Apparently 'usury' is anti-Semitic and this was the first time I have heard such a claim. Something tells me that I should not bother finding out why it is or isn't.
      - DanBC 9y ago
        It's not just use of the word "usury". It's the combination of the money lenders theme (or they run the banking system) with they run the media and they're taking over the world.

srean 9y ago

I don't have the cultural context, so help me grasp why would this word be anti-Semitic, as far as I know it has a perfectly legit meaning.