3 ms·

of course they do! what magical kingdom of the future do you think you're living in, where economic ends have no bearing on survival?! your business on the brin

by 00N8 9y ago

of course they do! what magical kingdom of the future do you think you're living in, where economic ends have no bearing on survival?! your business on the brink succeeds or fails; a personal relationship blossoms or sours. sure, we mustn't rely too much one any one thing going a certain way on these kinda things that data sharing or Google Analytics can impact. but in aggregate these factors have significant bearing on one's access to medical, nutritional, & fitness resources & technology, even will to live, thus they do drive life or death outcomes all the same.

cromwellian 9y ago
So Google Analytics kills people? It saps your bodily fluids, I mean, will to live, at the same level as fluoridated water, and is equally dangerous with building fires. Gotcha. This is the best example of false equivalence I've yet seen.
- summerdown2 9y ago
  People subject to identity theft due to poor control of their data do indeed suffer real world consequences. I wouldn't necessarily want to argue it's a case of life or death - but there's undoubtedly actual harm in some cases ranging from social issues if their data is sensitive, right down to financial loss. And if you wanted to examine whether it could be a matter of life or death, it wouldn't be that big of a stretch. Consider what might be the result of someone trying to escape from an abusive relationship having their personal data exposed. Or a whistleblower / political dissident. For example, imagine a Chinese dissident with a free-Tibet facebook record whose data gets back to the Chinese government. I'd focus on China particularly because they're developing a system for working out how much people align with the state and it appears it may be partly based on the information they can find out about people's internet postings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

by 00N8 9y ago

cromwellian 9y ago

So Google Analytics kills people? It saps your bodily fluids, I mean, will to live, at the same level as fluoridated water, and is equally dangerous with building fires. Gotcha. This is the best example of false equivalence I've yet seen.

summerdown2 9y ago
People subject to identity theft due to poor control of their data do indeed suffer real world consequences. I wouldn't necessarily want to argue it's a case of life or death - but there's undoubtedly actual harm in some cases ranging from social issues if their data is sensitive, right down to financial loss. And if you wanted to examine whether it could be a matter of life or death, it wouldn't be that big of a stretch. Consider what might be the result of someone trying to escape from an abusive relationship having their personal data exposed. Or a whistleblower / political dissident. For example, imagine a Chinese dissident with a free-Tibet facebook record whose data gets back to the Chinese government. I'd focus on China particularly because they're developing a system for working out how much people align with the state and it appears it may be partly based on the information they can find out about people's internet postings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System