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You seem to be wildly over reacting, I don’t see hostility in his comments.

DoreenMichele 9y ago
Among other things, I am being framed as a conspiracy theorist: Attributing the differences in our experiences to a uniform medical conspiracy against the public doesn't bear on whether treatments work or not for different cases. Accusing me of wildly overreacting is not a good way to help in such a situation. It just puts out the fire with gasoline.
- newfoundglory 9y ago
  Well, when you make claims suggesting that large groups like the “entire medical profession” may be acting on motives other than what they claim, or that medical experts may be just scamming money out of people, it does sound like a conspiracy theory.
  - DoreenMichele 9y ago
    So, basically, you are accusing me of wildly overreacting not because I am but because you are keen to heap additional attacks on me for some reason. Criticising an industry as having inherent conflict of interest is not remotely a conspiracy theory. I think I am done here. This is a really tiresome pattern on HN of late where two or more people gang up on me and use bad faith tactics and then I get downvoted etc. It's a no win situation for me and seems entirely unrelated to whatever point I have tried to make.
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    - newfoundglory 9y ago
      This is bizarre. It’s not “ganging up on you” for two separate people to think that your behavior is weird, and it’s not bad faith tactics either. If this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here.
      - DoreenMichele 9y ago
        If this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here. That's another unfounded personal attack. Women and other minorities often have a hard time in environments dominated by white males. It has nothing to do with them doing something wrong. They are simply demographic outliers.
        newfoundglory 9y ago
        It’s not unfounded, it’s based entirely on information you provided. And being a minority (as I am, too) does not automatically mean any social difficulties are caused by demographics.
- smittywerben 9y ago
  Uh, excuse me, if you think medication doesn't work, then you are indeed a conspiracy theorist. Have a good day, Ma'am. Another common feature is that conspiracy theories evolve to incorporate whatever evidence exists against them, so that they become, as Barkun writes, a closed system that is unfalsifiable, and therefore “a matter of faith rather than proof” (Barkun, 2003, 2011)

Among other things, I am being framed as a conspiracy theorist: Attributing the differences in our experiences to a uniform medical conspiracy against the public doesn't bear on whether treatments work or not for different cases. Accusing me of wildly overreacting is not a good way to help in such a situation. It just puts out the fire with gasoline.

newfoundglory 9y ago
Well, when you make claims suggesting that large groups like the “entire medical profession” may be acting on motives other than what they claim, or that medical experts may be just scamming money out of people, it does sound like a conspiracy theory.
- DoreenMichele 9y ago
  So, basically, you are accusing me of wildly overreacting not because I am but because you are keen to heap additional attacks on me for some reason. Criticising an industry as having inherent conflict of interest is not remotely a conspiracy theory. I think I am done here. This is a really tiresome pattern on HN of late where two or more people gang up on me and use bad faith tactics and then I get downvoted etc. It's a no win situation for me and seems entirely unrelated to whatever point I have tried to make.
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  - newfoundglory 9y ago
    This is bizarre. It’s not “ganging up on you” for two separate people to think that your behavior is weird, and it’s not bad faith tactics either. If this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here.
    - DoreenMichele 9y ago
      If this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here. That's another unfounded personal attack. Women and other minorities often have a hard time in environments dominated by white males. It has nothing to do with them doing something wrong. They are simply demographic outliers.
      - newfoundglory 9y ago
        It’s not unfounded, it’s based entirely on information you provided. And being a minority (as I am, too) does not automatically mean any social difficulties are caused by demographics.
smittywerben 9y ago
Uh, excuse me, if you think medication doesn't work, then you are indeed a conspiracy theorist. Have a good day, Ma'am. Another common feature is that conspiracy theories evolve to incorporate whatever evidence exists against them, so that they become, as Barkun writes, a closed system that is unfalsifiable, and therefore “a matter of faith rather than proof” (Barkun, 2003, 2011)