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I appreciate that you want to do right by your children. I'm glad you wound up with a better situation under conditions of misdiagnosis. When medication is clea
by jacques_chester 9y ago
I appreciate that you want to do right by your children. I'm glad you wound up with a better situation under conditions of misdiagnosis. When medication is clearly unnecessary, I agree that better not to.
But it is not true to say that every single case is the same.
Making universal statements about the nature of ADHD and universal statements about available treatments can deter people from seeking and receiving help that would work for them.
Experts are more likely to diagnose correctly than layfolk. No single error changes that fact. Insofar as people are deterred from seeking expert attention, the net effect is harmful.
Attributing the differences in our experiences to a uniform medical conspiracy against the public doesn't bear on whether treatments work or not for different cases.
My parents cared too. Nobody told them about ADHD, because it just wasn't a commonly-known thing in that time and place. I was smart enough to stumble forward through school, with their love and heartbreak and the dedication of many frustrated teachers. But I would've done a lot better with just a little treatment. And I find it hard not to take personally the idea that others should be discouraged from seeking help from a professional.
- DoreenMichele 9y agoI am sorry you are taking this so extremely personally. I wish you had stated that up front. I regret engaging you. You are wildly misconstruing my remarks in a very hostile fashion.
- newfoundglory 9y agoYou seem to be wildly over reacting, I don’t see hostility in his comments.
- DoreenMichele 9y agoAmong other things, I am being framed as a conspiracy theorist: Attributing the differences in our experiences to a uniform medical conspiracy against the public doesn't bear on whether treatments work or not for different cases. Accusing me of wildly overreacting is not a good way to help in such a situation. It just puts out the fire with gasoline.
- newfoundglory 9y agoWell, when you make claims suggesting that large groups like the “entire medical profession” may be acting on motives other than what they claim, or that medical experts may be just scamming money out of people, it does sound like a conspiracy theory.
- DoreenMichele 9y agoSo, basically, you are accusing me of wildly overreacting not because I am but because you are keen to heap additional attacks on me for some reason. Criticising an industry as having inherent conflict of interest is not remotely a conspiracy theory. I think I am done here. This is a really tiresome pattern on HN of late where two or more people gang up on me and use bad faith tactics and then I get downvoted etc. It's a no win situation for me and seems entirely unrelated to whatever point I have tried to make.
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- newfoundglory 9y agoThis is bizarre. It’s not “ganging up on you” for two separate people to think that your behavior is weird, and it’s not bad faith tactics either. If this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here.
- DoreenMichele 9y agoIf this happens to you a lot then I’d guess that you frequently seem to be misjudging other commenters here. That's another unfounded personal attack. Women and other minorities often have a hard time in environments dominated by white males. It has nothing to do with them doing something wrong. They are simply demographic outliers.
- newfoundglory 9y ago