I don’t think those are No True Scotsman fallacies. Or at least not as you describe them. The problem appears to stem from using specific languages to argue abo

I don’t think those are No True Scotsman fallacies. Or at least not as you describe them. The problem appears to stem from using specific languages to argue about a broader concept. Java being verbose, Scala having too much ceremony and Ruby allowing monkey patching aren’t really complaints about OOP per se. Nor are issues of static or dynamic typing, bugs or bloat. For example the discussion here hasn’t seen a lot of shying away from the practical and conceptual issues with inheritance.