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It's not really a controversial idea that no one thought Trump was going to win, including himself. Look at the state of his campaign, he didn't even have a cab

It's not really a controversial idea that no one thought Trump was going to win, including himself. Look at the state of his campaign, he didn't even have a cabinet worked out or any kind of transition plan. The first 100 days were a complete mess with people cobbled together from random areas of his life. The Michael Wolff book lays it out pretty clearly about what the thought process was at the time. If you look at the situation, they were not expecting a win at all. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-f... Not really sure what you're looking for, this is politics not computer science. You'll never get a sigma six answer for any of this. That's about as close as you're going to get in politics for any "fact".

vixen99 9y ago
You have an agenda and therefore make statements that pretend to be factual 'well we all know that, don't we?'. Plenty of other places to conduct that game.
- jorblumesea 9y ago
  I think for anyone who hasn't been hiding under a rock this is pretty well known. There's no real game here, just those who have been paying attention and those who have not. If any of this comes off as a surprise, I would do more digging into most of this.
adamrezich 9y ago
Despite you saying "it's an uncontroversial idea" and a book some guy wrote with obvious political intent, I still feel that projecting thoughts and feelings onto someone is dangerous, because it means that my perception of the world is no longer necessarily founded in reality. The more assumptions like this one makes, the further one's own internal reality has the potential of drifting away from those who don't share it. I've been making an effort to do less and less of this, myself, in the past few years, and I feel that it's helped my perception of reality considerably. For example, I predicted the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election early in the year, while very nearly everyone I knew—even those who supported and voted for Trump!—were sure he would lose. I refused to buy into memes that ascribe intentions or motivations to public figures based on hearsay, and I believe this helped me understand all the crazy shit that went on that year quite a bit better.

vixen99 9y ago

You have an agenda and therefore make statements that pretend to be factual 'well we all know that, don't we?'. Plenty of other places to conduct that game.

jorblumesea 9y ago
I think for anyone who hasn't been hiding under a rock this is pretty well known. There's no real game here, just those who have been paying attention and those who have not. If any of this comes off as a surprise, I would do more digging into most of this.

adamrezich 9y ago

Despite you saying "it's an uncontroversial idea" and a book some guy wrote with obvious political intent, I still feel that projecting thoughts and feelings onto someone is dangerous, because it means that my perception of the world is no longer necessarily founded in reality. The more assumptions like this one makes, the further one's own internal reality has the potential of drifting away from those who don't share it. I've been making an effort to do less and less of this, myself, in the past few years, and I feel that it's helped my perception of reality considerably. For example, I predicted the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election early in the year, while very nearly everyone I knew—even those who supported and voted for Trump!—were sure he would lose. I refused to buy into memes that ascribe intentions or motivations to public figures based on hearsay, and I believe this helped me understand all the crazy shit that went on that year quite a bit better.