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That's exactly what I wanted to say. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house... none of these parties--Facebook included--can be trusted with any data. They'r

That's exactly what I wanted to say. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house... none of these parties--Facebook included--can be trusted with any data. They're all out to make a buck with it!

paulddraper 9y ago
I 100% believe in the fox to guard the hen house...from the other foxes. No point in sharing dinner.
- notatoad 9y ago
  Exactly. Facebook really wants to protect your personal information - it's their competitive advantage. If other companies all have your personal info too, then it's less valuable to Facebook. The last thing they want to do is let it get out. If you've decided to share your info with Facebook, well, that's on you. But Facebook isn't going to share it.
  - arjunrc 9y ago
    Are you serious, defending Facebook here? There can't be a single repository of online data, which by design gives the repository owner too much power and control. Blaming the users for falling for it is like saying we can't have regulation because markets can self-regulate themselves. After the last 3 years, anyone who defends Facebook comes across as disingenuous, naive or for a lack of a better word, a shill in my book. Saying Facebook wants to protects your personal information is the most hypocritical statement, I've heard yet.
    - hnmullany 9y ago
      sarcasm
    - noio 9y ago
      I don't think you and parent disagree. Facebook will do a good job of 'protecting' your personal data because that allows them —exclusively— to benefit from it. Though the definition of 'protecting' might differ, Facebook's might sacrifice that protection to benefit at any point. As a user, you're not in control of that transaction and will never benefit.
      - Faark 9y ago
        Also lets not forget Facebook as to appear somewhat protective of data, or they'll scare off even more user. Negative consequences of users sharing their data have to appear dystopian fiction.
  - fancyfacebook 9y ago
    This fallacy of pre-defending a corporation from ever doing anything wrong or acting against their own (short term) self interests because "their business depends on it" needs to stop immediately.
  - frankzinger 9y ago
    Uhm, there are many companies that have access via the FB API to users' data and the data of their friends. E.g. CA/SCL. The TOS says you're not allowed to pass it on to third parties but that is exactly what CA/SCL did and FB didn't do much about it when they found out. So much for protecting your personal info. That is why such a stink is being made about this story.
dng88 9y ago
May be the truth. But then catch a few is better not to catch. But once start it got its own life and hence ... Also, it is a org culture. If your org do something at least not all insider will say no we do not do this and just let it happen. But once some do it at least someone internal may raise it. Also back to basic someone will hold the data. The key is not to allow one but a few or many or ultimately peer to peer. But can this happen and if not (yet) what you do now.
Gibbon1 9y ago
> They're all out to make a buck with it! It's not even that though. If someone is reselling your companies data to a third party without authorization, you put both the company and it's key people on the persona non grata list. Large well run corporations and a lot of smaller companies have black lists like that and they use them.

That's exactly what I wanted to say. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house... none of these parties--Facebook included--can be trusted with any data. They're all out to make a buck with it!

paulddraper 9y ago

I 100% believe in the fox to guard the hen house...from the other foxes. No point in sharing dinner.

notatoad 9y ago
Exactly. Facebook really wants to protect your personal information - it's their competitive advantage. If other companies all have your personal info too, then it's less valuable to Facebook. The last thing they want to do is let it get out. If you've decided to share your info with Facebook, well, that's on you. But Facebook isn't going to share it.
- arjunrc 9y ago
  Are you serious, defending Facebook here? There can't be a single repository of online data, which by design gives the repository owner too much power and control. Blaming the users for falling for it is like saying we can't have regulation because markets can self-regulate themselves. After the last 3 years, anyone who defends Facebook comes across as disingenuous, naive or for a lack of a better word, a shill in my book. Saying Facebook wants to protects your personal information is the most hypocritical statement, I've heard yet.
  - hnmullany 9y ago
    sarcasm
  - noio 9y ago
    I don't think you and parent disagree. Facebook will do a good job of 'protecting' your personal data because that allows them —exclusively— to benefit from it. Though the definition of 'protecting' might differ, Facebook's might sacrifice that protection to benefit at any point. As a user, you're not in control of that transaction and will never benefit.
    - Faark 9y ago
      Also lets not forget Facebook as to appear somewhat protective of data, or they'll scare off even more user. Negative consequences of users sharing their data have to appear dystopian fiction.
- fancyfacebook 9y ago
  This fallacy of pre-defending a corporation from ever doing anything wrong or acting against their own (short term) self interests because "their business depends on it" needs to stop immediately.
- frankzinger 9y ago
  Uhm, there are many companies that have access via the FB API to users' data and the data of their friends. E.g. CA/SCL. The TOS says you're not allowed to pass it on to third parties but that is exactly what CA/SCL did and FB didn't do much about it when they found out. So much for protecting your personal info. That is why such a stink is being made about this story.

dng88 9y ago

May be the truth. But then catch a few is better not to catch. But once start it got its own life and hence ... Also, it is a org culture. If your org do something at least not all insider will say no we do not do this and just let it happen. But once some do it at least someone internal may raise it. Also back to basic someone will hold the data. The key is not to allow one but a few or many or ultimately peer to peer. But can this happen and if not (yet) what you do now.

Gibbon1 9y ago

> They're all out to make a buck with it! It's not even that though. If someone is reselling your companies data to a third party without authorization, you put both the company and it's key people on the persona non grata list. Large well run corporations and a lot of smaller companies have black lists like that and they use them.