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It's been fashionable for a while to bash the top dog. No, the US isn't perfect, but how can you equate it to the shit china does day in and out.

newnewpdro 9y ago
It will be interesting to see what the US resembles when its numbers exceed 1 billion people. China in many ways is simply setting the precedent now, how the US follows remains to be seen.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  US exceeding a billion people? All countries except some in Africa are on a population decline long term. https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/2c9342e9aa17d2237eade99c79d239fce0612d99/8bd8c/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/world-population-by-level-of-fertility-without-projections-768x538.png https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/2c9342e9aa17d2237eade9... https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-population/ https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-... https://vimeo.com/79878808 https://vimeo.com/79878808
  - newnewpdro 9y ago
    It'd be great if these optimistic projections are what happens, but today's american culture and economy is still very growth centric - I don't see it happening.
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    - selectodude 9y ago
      Toys R Us just said yesterday that one of the major causes of their bankruptcy was a decline in birth rates.
      - emodendroket 9y ago
        I'm not sure I would take them at their word -- any kind of circumstance beyond their control flatters them.
      - astronautjones 9y ago
        their bankruptcy is 100% due to their leveraged buyout
  - cjbprime 9y ago
    Though note that it really is long-term.. it takes a couple generations for the population to stop increasing after birth rates drop, since the previous generation still contained more children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Population-lag_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Populatio...
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Agree, but we're on the right path. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-16/decline-in-world-fertility-rates-lowers-risks-of-mass-starvation https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-16/decline-i...
  - vorg 9y ago
    The U.S., like Canada, Australia, Brazil, and many Spanish-speaking countries in America, along with the former colonizing countries of Western Europe (e.g. England, Holland, France), is an immigration-based country, and so birth rate is only one factor. Given the number of people from China, India, and elsewhere who would immigrate to the U.S. if they could, it's not inconceivable that one day the U.S. will welcome them and their money so Americans can profit from another residential property Ponzi scheme.
- musage 9y ago
  Ah yes, nobody is doing anything, they're just following the rules of nature. And you yourself are not doing anything either, you're just stating how it objectively is. As usual when sociopaths and those obedient to them are discussed.
s2g 9y ago
It's become fashionable to ignore China's misdeeds because of the money and hype.

newnewpdro 9y ago

It will be interesting to see what the US resembles when its numbers exceed 1 billion people. China in many ways is simply setting the precedent now, how the US follows remains to be seen.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
US exceeding a billion people? All countries except some in Africa are on a population decline long term. https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/2c9342e9aa17d2237eade99c79d239fce0612d99/8bd8c/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/world-population-by-level-of-fertility-without-projections-768x538.png https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/2c9342e9aa17d2237eade9... https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-population/ https://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-... https://vimeo.com/79878808 https://vimeo.com/79878808
- newnewpdro 9y ago
  It'd be great if these optimistic projections are what happens, but today's american culture and economy is still very growth centric - I don't see it happening.
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - selectodude 9y ago
    Toys R Us just said yesterday that one of the major causes of their bankruptcy was a decline in birth rates.
    - emodendroket 9y ago
      I'm not sure I would take them at their word -- any kind of circumstance beyond their control flatters them.
    - astronautjones 9y ago
      their bankruptcy is 100% due to their leveraged buyout
- cjbprime 9y ago
  Though note that it really is long-term.. it takes a couple generations for the population to stop increasing after birth rates drop, since the previous generation still contained more children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Population-lag_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate#Populatio...
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Agree, but we're on the right path. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-16/decline-in-world-fertility-rates-lowers-risks-of-mass-starvation https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-16/decline-i...
- vorg 9y ago
  The U.S., like Canada, Australia, Brazil, and many Spanish-speaking countries in America, along with the former colonizing countries of Western Europe (e.g. England, Holland, France), is an immigration-based country, and so birth rate is only one factor. Given the number of people from China, India, and elsewhere who would immigrate to the U.S. if they could, it's not inconceivable that one day the U.S. will welcome them and their money so Americans can profit from another residential property Ponzi scheme.
musage 9y ago
Ah yes, nobody is doing anything, they're just following the rules of nature. And you yourself are not doing anything either, you're just stating how it objectively is. As usual when sociopaths and those obedient to them are discussed.

s2g 9y ago

It's become fashionable to ignore China's misdeeds because of the money and hype.