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I don't understand the point you're trying to make. eddieplan9 didn't claim that the US is a flawless, perfect nation. They're saying that despite the issues wi

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. eddieplan9 didn't claim that the US is a flawless, perfect nation. They're saying that despite the issues with the US (and I do agree that there are a lot), drawing conclusions between the US and China is a false equivalency and that things in China re: social freedom is much worse than here. Pointing out flaws with the US doesn't take away from his point.

crankylinuxuser 9y ago
> They can not only cut your off completely from planes and trains, but also your electricity, driver license, internet, telephone, banks, ability to get any travel document, ability to stay at any hotel, etc. --versus-- Real unabashed slavery on a finding of guilty. And companies can cut off your access to: planes, trains, internet, banking, telephones, ability to stay at any hotel. And the government can put you on a list stopping you from: planes, trains, drivers license, travel document, banking... ------------------------------ That's a fair comparison to make. And there is a good comparison to be made. Both are nation states. Social freedom is less in China for its citizens, but it's not the abject horrible pit of despair made out to be.