(edit: oy, this is a controversial comment? karma score is swinging wildly. I don't mean to suggest that China's social credit system is a good idea or that it

(edit: oy, this is a controversial comment? karma score is swinging wildly. I don't mean to suggest that China's social credit system is a good idea or that it has an equivalent in the USA. It's just worth pointing out that China's own characterization of the system is pretty similar to how things work in the US...) From the article: > People who would be put on the restricted lists included those found to have committed acts like spreading false information about terrorism and causing trouble on flights, as well as those who used expired tickets or smoked on trains, according to two statements issued on the National Development and Reform Commission’s website on Friday. The US may ban you from flying if you are politically controversial [1]+, get kicked off a flight [2, edit: 4], or sneak onto planes without a ticket [3]. Likewise, people who trespass on public transit are often barred from its use. And of course people who break traffic laws are (eventually) kicked off the roads. I won't comment on whether the Chinese government's characterization of its laws is accurate or not (I don't speak any relevant language and don't know much about the culture, so all I have to go off of is western media). But at least according to the Chinese government, these rules are mostly in-line with how things often work in the US. [1] https://theintercept.com/document/2014/07/23/march-2013-watchlisting-guidance/ https://theintercept.com/document/2014/07/23/march-2013-watc... (edit: changed from http://mentalfloss.com/article/68073/8-ways-you-can-end-no-fly-list http://mentalfloss.com/article/68073/8-ways-you-can-end-no-f...) [2] https://thepointsguy.com/2017/07/getting-banned-from-an-airline/ https://thepointsguy.com/2017/07/getting-banned-from-an-airl... [3] e.g., http://wqad.com/2018/02/21/illinois-stowaway-woman-pleads-not-guilty-after-chicago-to-london-flight/ http://wqad.com/2018/02/21/illinois-stowaway-woman-pleads-no... [4] http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39919229/ns/travel-news/t/can-bad-in-flight-behavior-land-you-no-fly-list/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39919229/ns/travel-news/t/can-bad-... + The "predictive assessments" (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/10/us-no-fly-list-predictive-assessments https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/10/us-no-fly-li...) used for putting people on the no-fly list are not very transparent and, IMO, reminiscent of a social credit system. It's extremely hard to imagine such a system that doesn't harshly penalize certain constitutionally protected speech (e.g., about Islam and US foreign policy in the ME).