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Civ II was excellent. I also liked IV and I and all the newer ones too (I never played III because IV came out before I got my hands on a Mac port of III). The

Civ II was excellent. I also liked IV and I and all the newer ones too (I never played III because IV came out before I got my hands on a Mac port of III). The main negative point of the newer versions is how slow turns get toward the end on large maps with lots of civilizations.

toast0 9y ago
> The main negative point of the newer versions is how slow turns get toward the end on large maps with lots of civilizations. That's not exactly new; it's just if you're playing Civ I or II today, turn processing takes maybe a hundredth of the time it did at the time of release.
- dwighttk 9y ago
  Perhaps, but I never played Civ II with less than the largest map and fewer than the most opponents available (even on my LC 575.) Whereas I usually set up games with just one or two opponents most of the time (starting from IV) to keep from getting bogged down in the endgame. (Maybe I just didn't care as much?)
  - da_chicken 9y ago
    I'm willing to bet you just didn't care as much or just expected it. I played the hell out of Civ II and distinctly remember having to wait for turns to complete as the game progressed.
    - dwighttk 9y ago
      Eh... I just tried to play a game of Civ VI: Rise and Fall on my Mac and it was bogged down in the BC era with like 2-3 minutes of sitting around between turns. I need a new computer :D Or maybe just play Civ IV instead.
eastbayjake 9y ago
For me Civ 2 was peak Civilopedia, and Alpha Centauri was peak content-accompanying-discoveries (with the addition of quotes), but when that style got fed back into Civ 3 it lost something in translation. I literally did not study for history from grades 6-10 because I had learned 80% of the content by reading Civilopedia entries during gameplay. It's been a huge inspiration later in life as I've thought about educational gaming -- both as a classroom teacher and now as a technologist. PS - I still quote CEO Nwabudike Morgan and Chairman Sheng-ji Yang on a monthly basis in adult life
- em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
  https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri

toast0 9y ago

> The main negative point of the newer versions is how slow turns get toward the end on large maps with lots of civilizations. That's not exactly new; it's just if you're playing Civ I or II today, turn processing takes maybe a hundredth of the time it did at the time of release.

dwighttk 9y ago
Perhaps, but I never played Civ II with less than the largest map and fewer than the most opponents available (even on my LC 575.) Whereas I usually set up games with just one or two opponents most of the time (starting from IV) to keep from getting bogged down in the endgame. (Maybe I just didn't care as much?)
- da_chicken 9y ago
  I'm willing to bet you just didn't care as much or just expected it. I played the hell out of Civ II and distinctly remember having to wait for turns to complete as the game progressed.
  - dwighttk 9y ago
    Eh... I just tried to play a game of Civ VI: Rise and Fall on my Mac and it was bogged down in the BC era with like 2-3 minutes of sitting around between turns. I need a new computer :D Or maybe just play Civ IV instead.

eastbayjake 9y ago

For me Civ 2 was peak Civilopedia, and Alpha Centauri was peak content-accompanying-discoveries (with the addition of quotes), but when that style got fed back into Civ 3 it lost something in translation. I literally did not study for history from grades 6-10 because I had learned 80% of the content by reading Civilopedia entries during gameplay. It's been a huge inspiration later in life as I've thought about educational gaming -- both as a classroom teacher and now as a technologist. PS - I still quote CEO Nwabudike Morgan and Chairman Sheng-ji Yang on a monthly basis in adult life

em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri