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179 people over 17 years? In a major metropolitan city? That doesn't seem like much of a problem at all.
by darawk 9y ago
179 people over 17 years? In a major metropolitan city? That doesn't seem like much of a problem at all.
- iooi 9y agoYes, "Out of Control" seems a bit exaggerated in this context. For some comparison, 14,156 people died of cancer in 2014 [1] in Los Angeles county alone. There were 58 gun-related deaths in just 4 months in LA [2]. [1] https://www.cancer.org/content/dam/cancer-org/online-documents/en/pdf/reports/california-facts-figures-2017.pdf https://www.cancer.org/content/dam/cancer-org/online-documen... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/06/us/las-vegas-gun-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/06/us/las-vegas-...
- cat199 9y ago> Yes, "Out of Control" seems a bit exaggerated in this context. it's also a 'catchy' title when talking about losing control of a car..
- wmeredith 9y agoIt's also sensationalist clickbait and why we can't have nice things in modern media. For some perspective: someone drowns in Orange County (pool, bathtub, etc...) every 9 days. That's 689 people over the same period. Is bathing out of control? This article is fear-mongering nonsense. Or at the very least, the title is. https://www.ocregister.com/2015/04/13/whiting-someone-drowns-in-orange-county-every-9-days/ https://www.ocregister.com/2015/04/13/whiting-someone-drowns...
- cat199 9y ago179 fatalities, specifically related to street racing? ~10 a year? How many other accidents and just dangerous crap is happening on an ongoing basis for that many fatalities to occur? What would you expect to be 'much of a problem'? 10,000?
- tytytytytytytyt 9y ago> What would you expect to be 'much of a problem'? 10,000? Something closer to that than 10 is, considering the total number of people and leading causes of death, at least until we figure out a way to come up with infinite resources.
- yongjik 9y agoIn the same vein, just imagine how much money we could save if we get to say "300 people this year? More people died this month in car accidents. There's no need to do anything." every time a plane crashes.
- rlanday 9y agoI suspect the death toll from aviation might be a bit higher if that's how we responded to plane crashes...
- Erlangolem 9y agoThe death toll from aviation is high, just not the death toll when you only look at major passenger lines. Add in GA, and the numbers stop looking so sweet. https://www.aopa.org/about/general-aviation-statistics/general-aviation-safety-record-current-and-historic https://www.aopa.org/about/general-aviation-statistics/gener... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/12/lies-coverups-mask-roots-small-aircraft-carnage-unfit-for-flight-part-1/10405323/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/12/lies-c...
- Macha 9y agoI would imagine buses compare favourably to small cars also. GA pilots have less monitoring, and are more likely to be involved in many of the same activities that cause car crashes, but in the air. And more likely to be manually flying also. The argument was never "planes are inherently safer than cars" but rather "commercial passenger flights are safer than cars because of all the precautions (human and technical) we take"
- Erlangolem 9y agoI suspected that you were right, and doing a bit of research, you definitely are. The rate of fatalities in busses is quite low compared to cars and light trucks. https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/comparing-fatality-risks-united-states-transportation-across-modes-time https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transpor...
- francisofascii 9y agoWell, it highlights the extreme cases of the more pervasive problem: Aggressive driving, which is a factor in the majority of traffic fatalities.
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- mberning 9y agoMy thought exactly. Hardly a crisis. Best course of action: do nothing. But I’m sure there is somebody out there advocating for more enforcement, stricter fines, or even more authoritarian measures.
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- paxy 9y agoSeriously, it's a pretty terrible header when it takes away most of the supposed impact of the article before I even start reading it.
- analogmemory 9y agoYeah that's a overblown title. It reminds me of when someone dies at a rave and suddenly it's public health crisis according to news headlines.
- pascalxus 9y agoyeah seriously. I'm sure McDonalds kills many many orders of magnitude more people and no one talks about that.