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It's important to tell a balanced story. Parts of America was like this. Most of it was not. Civil suits failed to curb industrial emissions in built-up areas,
by DanielBMarkham 9y ago
It's important to tell a balanced story. Parts of America was like this. Most of it was not.
Civil suits failed to curb industrial emissions in built-up areas, which then spilled over everywhere else. The EPA was a godsend.
I didn't understand the problem until the first time I visited L.A. Wow, what a mess. The air was so thick. It was disgusting.
It's amazing the progress we have made. But the EPA, like so many other agencies (I'm looking at you, TSA) is an agency without a limiting factor. You come up with a devil, you pass a bunch of rules, then you spend the next few years issuing press releases about how you're saving the world.
What's happened to American politics in many areas is that there are no feedback loops. When I look at the smog in LA back in the day and how the skies look now? That's a feedback loop. My government is doing something I want them to do. But when they talk about parts per billion versus parts per trillion? It's not evidently clear to me as a voter that we're not just continuing to expand our empire, just like the rest of the agencies.
I love what the EPA has done and I support them. But without some kind of limiting feedback loop my support really doesn't mean much. It's just a platitude. I don't support any agency that just runs off on their own taking more and more control over things for reasons I don't understand (or reasons I do understand but disagree with.)
So sure, EPA yay! So what the hell does that actually mean?
ADD: No matter what the group, big corporate governance groups, local town councils, Non-profit boards, or federal agencies, political groups exist for political reasons. We may laud their goals and love some of the things they've done, but when you are chartered because politics, and you get funding because politics, and people love or hate you because politics -- your primary concern is political. That's not a knock on anybody, that's just the logic of how these things work.
- _red 9y agoThank you for making an eloquent and nuanced post. When it comes to things like "the environment" people lapse into simple morality tales and paint the world as all black / white.
- iainmerrick 9y agoI think the feedback loop is industry, who will continue to come up with new processes, materials, chemicals etc, which will improve our lives in some way, at some cost to the environment. The EPA can't stand still, it needs to keep pace with the industries it oversees. You're right of course that industry isn't all bad; we just need the right balance. As long as the EPA's budget isn't expanding out of control, they're probably not simply empire-building.
- anentropic 9y agoyes, how awful it would be if you ended up with too much environmental protection
- zeveb 9y agoEnvironmental protection isn't free, but comes at an economic cost. Too much for the benefits and you will have a net loss.
- pjc50 9y ago> parts per billion versus parts per trillion It turns out that even things you can't see can be bad for your health. There are some extremely important climate change feedback loops involved.
- ceejayoz 9y ago> Parts of America was like this. Most of it was not. Sure, but that's a little like promoting the election maps that focus on land areas instead of populations. Sure, rural Colorado was still in pretty decent shape in the 1970s. A very large proportion of Americans live in the parts of America that were like this.