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Are these significant in the first world though? I thought that phasing out leaded gasoline and lead paint happened enough time ago to not be a significant fact

by xyzzyz 9y ago

Are these significant in the first world though? I thought that phasing out leaded gasoline and lead paint happened enough time ago to not be a significant factor anymore these days. Similarly, congenital syphilis prevalence is not high either, especially as syphilis is quite easy to treat today.

OrganicMSG 9y ago
Well, there is the continuing mass lead poisoning in Flint - http://time.com/5197427/flint-water-samples-lead-increase/ http://time.com/5197427/flint-water-samples-lead-increase/ - and congenital syphilis is on the rise in the USA - https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/01/health/syphilis-newborns-partner/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/01/health/syphilis-newborns-...
- xyzzyz 9y ago
  Based on your article, congenital syphilis is extremely, extremely rare. Lead poisoning seems to also be rather low, compared to 50 years ago. I know these two things happen. I asked if they are significant. Seems like they are not.
  - OrganicMSG 9y ago
    On their own, maybe not. If taken as examples of two classes of environmental effect, namely environmental toxins and transmissible diseases, I would be surprised if those two broad types did not have a significant effect on the variability of developmental IQ in rich countries.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Lead poisoning seems to also be rather low, compared to 50 years ago Overall exposure is lower, sure, that doesn't mean it is insignificant in impact on IQ (and other health issues, notably cardiovascular disease.)
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  Flint isn't anywhere close to unique in lead exposure, though it gets the most media attention. See, e.g., https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-poisoning-afflicts-neighborhoods-across-california/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-poisoning-af...
dragonwriter 9y ago
> I thought that phasing out leaded gasoline and lead paint happened enough time ago to not be a significant factor anymore these days. No, lead exposure from water systems, unabated older housing, continued use of leaded aviation fuel, and other sources continues to be a nontrivial issue in the US and some other parts of the first world.

by xyzzyz 9y ago

OrganicMSG 9y ago

Well, there is the continuing mass lead poisoning in Flint - http://time.com/5197427/flint-water-samples-lead-increase/ http://time.com/5197427/flint-water-samples-lead-increase/ - and congenital syphilis is on the rise in the USA - https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/01/health/syphilis-newborns-partner/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/01/health/syphilis-newborns-...

xyzzyz 9y ago
Based on your article, congenital syphilis is extremely, extremely rare. Lead poisoning seems to also be rather low, compared to 50 years ago. I know these two things happen. I asked if they are significant. Seems like they are not.
- OrganicMSG 9y ago
  On their own, maybe not. If taken as examples of two classes of environmental effect, namely environmental toxins and transmissible diseases, I would be surprised if those two broad types did not have a significant effect on the variability of developmental IQ in rich countries.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > Lead poisoning seems to also be rather low, compared to 50 years ago Overall exposure is lower, sure, that doesn't mean it is insignificant in impact on IQ (and other health issues, notably cardiovascular disease.)
dragonwriter 9y ago
Flint isn't anywhere close to unique in lead exposure, though it gets the most media attention. See, e.g., https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-poisoning-afflicts-neighborhoods-across-california/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-poisoning-af...

dragonwriter 9y ago

> I thought that phasing out leaded gasoline and lead paint happened enough time ago to not be a significant factor anymore these days. No, lead exposure from water systems, unabated older housing, continued use of leaded aviation fuel, and other sources continues to be a nontrivial issue in the US and some other parts of the first world.