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Who doesn’t think race is biological? When people connect race and talents/abilities is when people get uncomfortable though for fairly obvious reasons. Which

Who doesn’t think race is biological? When people connect race and talents/abilities is when people get uncomfortable though for fairly obvious reasons. Which is likely how many will interpret this result (Race related to intelligence) and probably what you really wanted to say.

spicymaki 9y ago
Well do you go by the American definition of race, do you go by the Brazilian color scale, or something else? In the US you are considered black if you have at least one black ancestor. Why not the other way around? Race in terms of biological definition is not consistent or coherent. There is also a lot of genetic variation within socially classified races.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> Who doesn’t think race is biological? People that observe that “race” is a highly malleable concept (there isn't even a broad agreement on how many races there are) that evolves with social, demographic, and economic shifts in the culture whose views of race are examined.
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- Yetanfou 9y ago
  In other words people who don't know the difference between race - a biological phenomenon - and ethnicity - a social phenomenon.
  - c8d3f7b49897918 9y ago
    Ethnicity is almost always a biological phenomenon as well. Race and ethnicity are simply larger and smaller group categorizations of humans, both with reasonably accurate biological tests.
  - burtness 9y ago
    Well its at very least contested whether its a biological phenomenon. Its certainly not a genetic phenomenon and hasn't been treated as such since the mid-twentieth century
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > In other words people who don't know the difference between race - a biological phenomenon - and ethnicity - a social phenomenon. No, people who recognize that despite the conceit that race is a “biological concept”, the identification of race (both ascription to others and self-identified) has always been driven by the same sociological phenomon that drive ethnic identity, and that, in practice, the concept of race operates as simply a broader set of ethnic categories, which is why identification of what races exist and how people are identified as being in one race or another vary not only between cultures, but within the same cultures over time.

spicymaki 9y ago

Well do you go by the American definition of race, do you go by the Brazilian color scale, or something else? In the US you are considered black if you have at least one black ancestor. Why not the other way around? Race in terms of biological definition is not consistent or coherent. There is also a lot of genetic variation within socially classified races.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Who doesn’t think race is biological? People that observe that “race” is a highly malleable concept (there isn't even a broad agreement on how many races there are) that evolves with social, demographic, and economic shifts in the culture whose views of race are examined.

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Yetanfou 9y ago
In other words people who don't know the difference between race - a biological phenomenon - and ethnicity - a social phenomenon.
- c8d3f7b49897918 9y ago
  Ethnicity is almost always a biological phenomenon as well. Race and ethnicity are simply larger and smaller group categorizations of humans, both with reasonably accurate biological tests.
- burtness 9y ago
  Well its at very least contested whether its a biological phenomenon. Its certainly not a genetic phenomenon and hasn't been treated as such since the mid-twentieth century
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > In other words people who don't know the difference between race - a biological phenomenon - and ethnicity - a social phenomenon. No, people who recognize that despite the conceit that race is a “biological concept”, the identification of race (both ascription to others and self-identified) has always been driven by the same sociological phenomon that drive ethnic identity, and that, in practice, the concept of race operates as simply a broader set of ethnic categories, which is why identification of what races exist and how people are identified as being in one race or another vary not only between cultures, but within the same cultures over time.