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To get the Tor Browser try to download it from the official Github repository: https://github.com/thetorproject/gettorbrowser https://github.com/thetorproject/g

To get the Tor Browser try to download it from the official Github repository: https://github.com/thetorproject/gettorbrowser https://github.com/thetorproject/gettorbrowser Then use meek-amazon as a pluggable transport which should work.

qwerty456127 9y ago
AFAIK the fact of TOR usage is rather easy to detect. AFAIK (from some news here on HN) you can get SWATed and arrested for a mere suspicion (e.g a false positive by an automated traffic analysis system) of using an end-to-end encrypting messenger or even Twitter in Turkey. I doubt it is legal and safe to use TOR in such countries. We need something that is harder to detect on the client ISP side.
- walrus01 9y ago
  it is by no means foolproof and won't get around a deep packet inspection/flow analysis system, but this is why obfsproxy exists: https://www.google.com/search?q=obfsproxy+tor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1 https://www.google.com/search?q=obfsproxy+tor&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
  - jerheinze 9y ago
    But be sure not to use the default bundled obfs4 bridges, they're known.
- jerheinze 9y ago
  > AFAIK the fact of TOR usage is rater easy to detect. That's why I said: "Then use meek-amazon as a pluggable transport which should work." meek-amazon makes your traffic look like you're talking to: > url=https://d2cly7j4zqgua7.cloudfront.net/ https://d2cly7j4zqgua7.cloudfront.net/ front=a0.awsstatic.com With the snowflake pluggable transport (only available with Linux and Mac alphas for now) the traffic looks like WebRTC. You can read more about them here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Snowflake https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Snowflake
- tonyztan 9y ago
  > "We need something that is harder to detect on the client ISP side." That's what Telex[1][2] is designed to do. Too bad the project seems to have stalled. [1] https://telex.cc https://telex.cc [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex_(anti-censorship_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex_(anti-censorship_system)
forapurpose 9y ago
> ... should work If it doesn't, people could get arrested and worse. Is this advice reliable enough for that level of risk?
- jerheinze 9y ago
  By "should work" I meant that the Tor client would bootstrap and you would be able to use it.

qwerty456127 9y ago

AFAIK the fact of TOR usage is rather easy to detect. AFAIK (from some news here on HN) you can get SWATed and arrested for a mere suspicion (e.g a false positive by an automated traffic analysis system) of using an end-to-end encrypting messenger or even Twitter in Turkey. I doubt it is legal and safe to use TOR in such countries. We need something that is harder to detect on the client ISP side.

walrus01 9y ago
it is by no means foolproof and won't get around a deep packet inspection/flow analysis system, but this is why obfsproxy exists: https://www.google.com/search?q=obfsproxy+tor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1 https://www.google.com/search?q=obfsproxy+tor&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
- jerheinze 9y ago
  But be sure not to use the default bundled obfs4 bridges, they're known.
jerheinze 9y ago
> AFAIK the fact of TOR usage is rater easy to detect. That's why I said: "Then use meek-amazon as a pluggable transport which should work." meek-amazon makes your traffic look like you're talking to: > url=https://d2cly7j4zqgua7.cloudfront.net/ https://d2cly7j4zqgua7.cloudfront.net/ front=a0.awsstatic.com With the snowflake pluggable transport (only available with Linux and Mac alphas for now) the traffic looks like WebRTC. You can read more about them here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Snowflake https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Snowflake
tonyztan 9y ago
> "We need something that is harder to detect on the client ISP side." That's what Telex[1][2] is designed to do. Too bad the project seems to have stalled. [1] https://telex.cc https://telex.cc [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex_(anti-censorship_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex_(anti-censorship_system)

forapurpose 9y ago

> ... should work If it doesn't, people could get arrested and worse. Is this advice reliable enough for that level of risk?

jerheinze 9y ago
By "should work" I meant that the Tor client would bootstrap and you would be able to use it.