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Who is going to host the Raspberry Pi, and do they guarantee they're not keeping connection logs?

oarsinsync 9y ago
You could ask the same people who host PIA servers to host your RPi, given that PIA don’t run their own network. PIA state they don’t keep logs on their servers, they can’t provide those guarantees on the network as they don’t run the networks they operate on. Plus colo and transit costs more than paying for a slice of resource someone else is already hosting, so there goes that price model.
- mmmeff 9y ago
  lolwat. Hey PIA, mind if I throw my little server in your datacenter? No you can't access it though. I promise it'll be properly secured! Hey! Why are you walking away?
  - josephholsten 9y ago
    This is actually less insane than it sounds. Most VPN providers rent space at traditional datacenter providers like Equanix. Search for "dedicated server hosting" and "colocation providers" for the exact same list of vendors that the VPN companies consider.
  - freeone3000 9y ago
    You enter into a colocation agreement, and that's pretty much how it works. Instead of walking away, they quote you a price.
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- josephholsten 9y ago
  Very true! Unfortunately, your RPi is going to have only one user in responsible for traffic. Commercial VPN providers act as a multiplexer to hide who is responsible for what traffic. Ideally you'd have at least a Type III anonymous remailer mixing your traffic, but then you're dealing with much higher latency. As with everything, there is a compromise between the effort required to break a security system, the ease of detecting such a break, and the burden of using the system. I'm not sure what point you're making about colo and transit costs. Are you saying that operating your own has higher costs? Or that a commercial VPN provider has higher costs? I'd be very interested in a price analysis that beats PIA while offering a remotely similar security profile. Keeping an RPi at your house provides defense against totally different threats.
- _emacsomancer_ 9y ago
  > PIA state they don’t keep logs on their servers, they can’t provide those guarantees on the network as they don’t run the networks they operate on. Do you have a source on this?

You could ask the same people who host PIA servers to host your RPi, given that PIA don’t run their own network. PIA state they don’t keep logs on their servers, they can’t provide those guarantees on the network as they don’t run the networks they operate on. Plus colo and transit costs more than paying for a slice of resource someone else is already hosting, so there goes that price model.

mmmeff 9y ago
lolwat. Hey PIA, mind if I throw my little server in your datacenter? No you can't access it though. I promise it'll be properly secured! Hey! Why are you walking away?
- josephholsten 9y ago
  This is actually less insane than it sounds. Most VPN providers rent space at traditional datacenter providers like Equanix. Search for "dedicated server hosting" and "colocation providers" for the exact same list of vendors that the VPN companies consider.
- freeone3000 9y ago
  You enter into a colocation agreement, and that's pretty much how it works. Instead of walking away, they quote you a price.
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josephholsten 9y ago
Very true! Unfortunately, your RPi is going to have only one user in responsible for traffic. Commercial VPN providers act as a multiplexer to hide who is responsible for what traffic. Ideally you'd have at least a Type III anonymous remailer mixing your traffic, but then you're dealing with much higher latency. As with everything, there is a compromise between the effort required to break a security system, the ease of detecting such a break, and the burden of using the system. I'm not sure what point you're making about colo and transit costs. Are you saying that operating your own has higher costs? Or that a commercial VPN provider has higher costs? I'd be very interested in a price analysis that beats PIA while offering a remotely similar security profile. Keeping an RPi at your house provides defense against totally different threats.
_emacsomancer_ 9y ago
> PIA state they don’t keep logs on their servers, they can’t provide those guarantees on the network as they don’t run the networks they operate on. Do you have a source on this?