> I'm not sure when that changed Late 1980's. I was there, working for a skunkworks fragment in a Big Blue shoppe. To express doubt about IBM was to get no bon

> I'm not sure when that changed Late 1980's. I was there, working for a skunkworks fragment in a Big Blue shoppe. To express doubt about IBM was to get no bonus. Then they started to haemorrhage cash to the tune of 5B$/quarter. Really it's that Oracle is closer, these days, to what IBM was 30 years ago.