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A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Spacemacs and doom-emacs are most commonly known for providing general purpose configurations.

by Vekz 9y ago

A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Spacemacs and doom-emacs are most commonly known for providing general purpose configurations. Portacle looking as a more focused for a specific use case. I would like to see this applied to other language environments to lower the barrier to entry. Maybe Erlang, Haskell, Racket, Ocaml.

eadmund 9y ago
> A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Spacemacs and doom-emacs are most commonly known for providing general purpose configurations. Portacle looking as a mor Bozhidar Batsov's Prelude[0] is another excellent one. It's got a lot of good pre-selected choices, and almost no bad ones. I can highly recommend it. [0] https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude
- escherize 9y ago
  Prelude is extremely good. It's the best way to get up and running with helm, and only the support for langs you care about (thanks to prelude-modules.el).
- Sir_Substance 9y ago
  Well now, this is pretty cool.
vindarel 9y ago
A portable Spacemacs built with Portacle would be another great step. AFAIK Portacle is ready to be configured, it just needs to be done.
- Shinmera 9y ago
  I don't know what Spacemacs does exactly or how it differs from classic Emacs, so I can't really estimate the amount of work required to get it integrated. I assume it would be non-trivial, however, just based on the experience I've had with the process so far.
skosch 9y ago
Agreed – a very welcome trend, and still not widely known outside of the Emacs bubble. I've spent a long time going back and forth between Atom/VSCode (too slow on my machine) and [neo]vim (where language integration/autocomplete/file tree/etc. still feel like bolted-on hacks). The I discovered doom-emacs. It's the best of all three worlds: the speed and power of Emacs, the modal editing agility of Vim, the beautiful UI of Atom (after some configuration).
kqr 9y ago
This is good. Emacs is best thought of as a special-purpose virtual machine, a little bit like the JVM och Python VM. Maybe this will help people understand that something like Magit is not just a Git integration for Emacs users -- it is a full, standalone end-user Git interface that just happens to be written for the Emacs VM. I'm not too keen on oackaging the VM with an application for easy deployment, but I do hope it helps people view Emacs modes as not just "an X for Emacs users" but rather "an alternative X that happens to run on Emacs". Calc is another thing a lot of people could use to great effect but don't because it runs in Emacs.
davidgl 9y ago
Haskell for Mac is great if you're on macOS: http://haskellformac.com http://haskellformac.com. Highly recommended.
jdboyd 9y ago
> A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Back before Eclipse, it wasn't uncommon for emacs to be bundled into development environments. Xemacs is a famous example of this (being forked by Lucid for their dev tools). My recall is that SunWorkshop used to use emacs as the IDE frontend back in the 90s. Allegro Common Lisp also used to include it. I think I came across other examples, but currently Google isn't providing enough help to 20 year old memories.

by Vekz 9y ago

eadmund 9y ago

> A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Spacemacs and doom-emacs are most commonly known for providing general purpose configurations. Portacle looking as a mor Bozhidar Batsov's Prelude[0] is another excellent one. It's got a lot of good pre-selected choices, and almost no bad ones. I can highly recommend it. [0] https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude

escherize 9y ago
Prelude is extremely good. It's the best way to get up and running with helm, and only the support for langs you care about (thanks to prelude-modules.el).
Sir_Substance 9y ago
Well now, this is pretty cool.

vindarel 9y ago

A portable Spacemacs built with Portacle would be another great step. AFAIK Portacle is ready to be configured, it just needs to be done.

Shinmera 9y ago
I don't know what Spacemacs does exactly or how it differs from classic Emacs, so I can't really estimate the amount of work required to get it integrated. I assume it would be non-trivial, however, just based on the experience I've had with the process so far.

skosch 9y ago

Agreed – a very welcome trend, and still not widely known outside of the Emacs bubble. I've spent a long time going back and forth between Atom/VSCode (too slow on my machine) and [neo]vim (where language integration/autocomplete/file tree/etc. still feel like bolted-on hacks). The I discovered doom-emacs. It's the best of all three worlds: the speed and power of Emacs, the modal editing agility of Vim, the beautiful UI of Atom (after some configuration).

kqr 9y ago

This is good. Emacs is best thought of as a special-purpose virtual machine, a little bit like the JVM och Python VM. Maybe this will help people understand that something like Magit is not just a Git integration for Emacs users -- it is a full, standalone end-user Git interface that just happens to be written for the Emacs VM. I'm not too keen on oackaging the VM with an application for easy deployment, but I do hope it helps people view Emacs modes as not just "an X for Emacs users" but rather "an alternative X that happens to run on Emacs". Calc is another thing a lot of people could use to great effect but don't because it runs in Emacs.

davidgl 9y ago

Haskell for Mac is great if you're on macOS: http://haskellformac.com http://haskellformac.com. Highly recommended.

jdboyd 9y ago

> A very interesting trend of pre-packaged Emacs distros happening. Back before Eclipse, it wasn't uncommon for emacs to be bundled into development environments. Xemacs is a famous example of this (being forked by Lucid for their dev tools). My recall is that SunWorkshop used to use emacs as the IDE frontend back in the 90s. Allegro Common Lisp also used to include it. I think I came across other examples, but currently Google isn't providing enough help to 20 year old memories.