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Is this music a skater has picked to perform to or background music played by the venue?
by crtasm 9y ago
Is this music a skater has picked to perform to or background music played by the venue?
- jdc0589 9y agoI doubt it matters.
- lowry 9y agoIt does not, but indeed I was referring to the music used in the skating programme.
- crtasm 9y agoSo if I understand correctly it's picked by the skater and integral to their performance made to an audience. Is it licenced for use at the event? I would prefer you didn't have such issues with sharing videos.
- lowry 9y agoAn ice skater programme does not use the music as is. The music is edited one way or another to fit the time allocated for the programme. Sometimes a skater uses two or more pieces of music mixed together. I do not know about the Olympics but I checked with the national ice skating federation, and there are apparently no special licensing fees for ice skating events. Ice rinks pay the usual fees for public performance, though.
- crtasm 9y agoAh - yes it's the public performance license fee that I was thinking of. Thanks for clarifying.
- Balgair 9y agoEvery ice skater chooses their music months beforehand. The music is timed to the routine and movements will emphasize beats in the music too. Some skaters will compose new music for their routine or work with artists to co-create a new musical/skating piece. I believe Carolina Costner of Italy has done this in the past (please check me on that though, google has nothing to say). Suffice to say, the music they choose may be copyrighted or long out of copyright (I'm looking at you Carmen). Skaters are never paid for competitions, thus they can play their music without worry at the events. Recently, music with words has now been allowed at competitions. Here is a brief over-view of music and ice skating: https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/965031866775437312 https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/965031866775437312
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- crtasm 9y agoIndeed - I wasn't clear if the videos mentioned were performances as you describe or footage of friends/family on a public rink. thanks for the extra info.
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y agoIf a competitor wins a prize does that prize constitute income for tax purposes? I don’t mean in the specific case of ice skating but in the general professional performer / athlete sense.
- sseveran 9y agoI don't know if they still do but historically they had to pay. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/08/15/olympics-victory-tax-gold-medal/88587636/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/08...
- Simon_says 9y agoWhy not? Everybody else does.
- kalleboo 9y ago> Skaters are never paid for competitions, thus they can play their music without worry at the events. In this case, isn't the usage covered by the event venue paying ASCAP? I don't think there's an exemption for "but I'm not making any money off of it".
- Balgair 9y agoTurns out, the copyright issue is a complicated, but settled, issue: > But the basic rule is simple: Standard licensing fees paid by broadcasters cover these uses, and the money makes its way, eventually, to songwriters as royalties. Most of the time, when songs are included on television, producers have to pay for a so-called synchronization license from music publishers. Negotiations can lead to high fees for the most in-demand pieces, like Beatles songs. But since the Olympics are considered a “live event,” even when tape-delayed, no such special permission is needed, said Steve Winogradsky, a lawyer who is an expert in music licensing. [0] [0]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/14/arts/music/olympics-figure-skating-songs-copyrights.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/14/arts/music/olympics-figur...