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"It's probably your Apple bias which seems to be at play here." Yes, because obviously Apple is not considered by their dominating market share of both the MP3

by symkat 16y ago

"It's probably your Apple bias which seems to be at play here." Yes, because obviously Apple is not considered by their dominating market share of both the MP3[1] and Phone[2] sectors. Apple is also obviously a company that puts tons of knobs, dials and switches on their products to sell them like the toaster in the article and my pointing them out had nothing to do with this. Silly me, and my Apple Fangirlism. [1] http://www.businessweek.com/technology/tech_stats/mp3s060209.htm http://www.businessweek.com/technology/tech_stats/mp3s060209... [2] http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/06/apples_iphone_market_share_three_times_greater_than_android_in_us.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/06/apples_iphone_...

akshayubhat 16y ago
Again your fanboiism at play: 1: you disregard my statement about evolution of ipod from a simple to a complex interface. Your link shows 3 different types of iPod, which shows that simplicity didn't work and design had to evolve, to incorporate different needs. 2: In regards to iPhone, Blackberry dominates the market share and guess why? Because they provide a much needed functionality "QWERTY keypad", which proves the point of the linked article.
- symkat 16y ago
  1: You can take not getting a response as me not having a response either because I agree with you, don't care, or don't care to disagree. 2: Splitting a >60% market share with the next best being %9 below is considered a success. Which is in direct disagreement with your original statement, "success considering their market share." Additionally, if you were aiming that at Apple Mac Computers alone, they have 91% of the share of computers sold priced over $1,000[1]. 2a: Your point on QWERTY keyboards on phones is complete and total conjecture and you know it. Personally, I like a keyboard on my phone, which is why I have a droid. If I had no need to ssh from my phone, there is absolutely no reason I would avoid a purely touchscreen phone. [1] http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624 http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-ma...
- jacquesm 16y ago
  Not everybody that is using the Apple product line as a yardstick by which to measure success is an apple 'fanboi[y]'. I've used the iphone/ipod example myself elsewhere in this thread but don't own either product. To immediately label someone and start calling names says more about you than it does about them. I suggest you scan the tone of the conversation around you and moderate accordingly. People can't seem to mention the Apple brand on HN without you jumping all over them with accusations. For instance: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1637376 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1637376

by symkat 16y ago

akshayubhat 16y ago

Again your fanboiism at play: 1: you disregard my statement about evolution of ipod from a simple to a complex interface. Your link shows 3 different types of iPod, which shows that simplicity didn't work and design had to evolve, to incorporate different needs. 2: In regards to iPhone, Blackberry dominates the market share and guess why? Because they provide a much needed functionality "QWERTY keypad", which proves the point of the linked article.

symkat 16y ago
1: You can take not getting a response as me not having a response either because I agree with you, don't care, or don't care to disagree. 2: Splitting a >60% market share with the next best being %9 below is considered a success. Which is in direct disagreement with your original statement, "success considering their market share." Additionally, if you were aiming that at Apple Mac Computers alone, they have 91% of the share of computers sold priced over $1,000[1]. 2a: Your point on QWERTY keyboards on phones is complete and total conjecture and you know it. Personally, I like a keyboard on my phone, which is why I have a droid. If I had no need to ssh from my phone, there is absolutely no reason I would avoid a purely touchscreen phone. [1] http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624 http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-ma...
jacquesm 16y ago
Not everybody that is using the Apple product line as a yardstick by which to measure success is an apple 'fanboi[y]'. I've used the iphone/ipod example myself elsewhere in this thread but don't own either product. To immediately label someone and start calling names says more about you than it does about them. I suggest you scan the tone of the conversation around you and moderate accordingly. People can't seem to mention the Apple brand on HN without you jumping all over them with accusations. For instance: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1637376 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1637376