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I will believe that someone is trying to improve Siri when the implementation is updated so that the time between when I push the button and when I can start sp

I will believe that someone is trying to improve Siri when the implementation is updated so that the time between when I push the button and when I can start speaking is reduced to the minimum possible with a only a short reliably deterministic delay length. The inability of Siri to provide me a way to know when I can start talking absolutely (waiting for that horrible beep is just insanely terrible) completely breaks the experience. The fact that no one seems to have noticed this flaw enough to figure out a fix suggests to me that the people developing the project do not have sufficient understanding of the interaction model to ever improve it ... There should be zero network requests that need to be complete before I can start talking. If Siri is unavailable for network reasons tell me after (or during) my query — but don’t slow down every single interaction and add ridiculous amounts of uncertainty to the responsiveness of the interface for the sake of the uncommon cases ...

IBM 9y ago
You don't have to wait for Siri to respond and you haven't had to for a while. Just say "Hey Siri" followed by the command with no pauses and it will handle it just fine.
- mung 9y ago
  This I think was poorly communicated. I found it out by accident, prior to that it seemed like Siri had taken a nosedive. "Hey Siri...." waiting.... followed by the cancel tone or sometimes "Yes?" - then the cancelled tone.
- andrewmcwatters 9y ago
  This isn't true. On iPhone 6, running the latest iOS version, with a brand new battery, there is a significant delay before you can speak. Instead, you have to hold the home button down. https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/ https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/
  - IBM 9y ago
    Hey Siri doesn't work on the iPhone 6 if it's not plugged in. Only the 6s and later do, and it's enabled by a specific low power chip.
- breatheoften 9y ago
  I might try 'Hey Siri' again now that I'm on iphone X. I'm not particularly a fan of always on mic's and the experience in the past was never sufficient for me. (side benefit -- as a result of this conversation I have discovered that its possible to turn off the 'activate siri via side button' mis-feature -- HURRAY! I can count on one hand the number of times where I invoked siri this way on purpose and on 100 hands the times its happened on accident. [Yes that does mean I almost never intentionally invoke siri])

IBM 9y ago

You don't have to wait for Siri to respond and you haven't had to for a while. Just say "Hey Siri" followed by the command with no pauses and it will handle it just fine.

mung 9y ago
This I think was poorly communicated. I found it out by accident, prior to that it seemed like Siri had taken a nosedive. "Hey Siri...." waiting.... followed by the cancel tone or sometimes "Yes?" - then the cancelled tone.
andrewmcwatters 9y ago
This isn't true. On iPhone 6, running the latest iOS version, with a brand new battery, there is a significant delay before you can speak. Instead, you have to hold the home button down. https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/ https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/
- IBM 9y ago
  Hey Siri doesn't work on the iPhone 6 if it's not plugged in. Only the 6s and later do, and it's enabled by a specific low power chip.
breatheoften 9y ago
I might try 'Hey Siri' again now that I'm on iphone X. I'm not particularly a fan of always on mic's and the experience in the past was never sufficient for me. (side benefit -- as a result of this conversation I have discovered that its possible to turn off the 'activate siri via side button' mis-feature -- HURRAY! I can count on one hand the number of times where I invoked siri this way on purpose and on 100 hands the times its happened on accident. [Yes that does mean I almost never intentionally invoke siri])